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GrimReaper

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knee draggin'
« on: January 13, 2010, 12:07:48 AM »
Today on my way to Pioneer saloon i tried to drag my knee on a 180 degree turn.Well what a mistake the bike start wobbling and almost threw me on the ground.Why this happen'?Is something wrong with my suspension?

Offline Ed Miller

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 11:41:37 AM »
That sounds like something I might try after leaving a saloon.  Did you actually have your knee down on the ground?  I could see where it might take weight off your tires, like trying to make a left corner with the side stand down.  Dunno.

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 07:02:01 PM »
Did you actually make contact? Knee to ground? Why would you want to do that without roadrace leathers and knee hockey pucks?  I don't think Troy Courser imbibes before the SKB races  ::)

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 07:58:49 PM »
Are you sure you didn't ground something hard?

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 07:59:43 PM »
If you got leaned over enough, possibly got a non-scuffed up part of the tires in contact with the pavement and lost a bit of grip with the road .

I think it's telling you, don't try this again .
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GrimReaper

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 01:00:43 AM »
well i always wear leathers so i am not afraid of touching ground.the problem is i experienced this wobbling only in this left turns and i did not lean over enough Bob.
  Monte the feeling was the same like in SBK when somebody lost it when exit the turn.
 Maybe i need a bit different technique than the one i use on my r11s ;D

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 01:11:14 AM »
There was probably a girl watching - I stuff up anything cool I can do normally if a chick is watching (or pretending not to watch).

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 01:17:29 AM »
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There was probably a girl watching - I stuff up anything cool I can do normally if a chick is watching (or pretending not to watch).

  Motu i am a musician and play in front of many people so i dont really care if someone watch

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 10:27:12 AM »
By chance, do you get off, or on the throttle, or something like that while in the turn ?

If not, there's only a few generic  things to check .

Tire pressures, tire condition, front forks for proper oil quantity, fork springs for being worn out, too short, steering head bearings preload, swing arm alignment, rear shock absorbers worn, are the rear shock absorber spring preload settings the same .
« Last Edit: January 14, 2010, 10:28:27 AM by Bob_Roller »
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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 10:42:31 AM »
 i was on the throttle but not much.I fees the forks a bit soft.How to check the swingarm alignment Bob

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2010, 10:59:31 AM »
You check the gap between the frame, and the swing arm .

You set it for equal gap on each side, then rotate the rear wheel by hand and check to make sure the u-joint isn't touching the inside of the swing arm housing, if it is, make adjustments to the swing arm pivot bolts, so the u-joint isn't scraping, or making any noise .
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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2010, 05:15:32 PM »
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Maybe i need a bit different technique than the one i use on my r11s  


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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2010, 08:40:02 PM »
The R65 definitely handles differently than the R11S does.  Not better, not worse, but different.  I was going to suggest the swing arm spacing.  You need a turned down 27mm socket to make the adjustment and should have fairly equal spacing on each side.  I bought mine from Joe's tools on line.  Also, the torque setting does have an effect on the handling so make sure that is set properly.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2010, 12:21:32 AM »
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GrimReaper

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Re: knee draggin'
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2010, 10:42:31 AM »
Guys my R65 is a monoshock with a single side swingarm.I do not have 27mm nut.I will recheck tire pressure and will use different technique next time when approaching this turn(he is not better than me) ;D