Biceps tendon dislocation (shoulder pain)

[dogshome]

Note to self - don't sit in awkward positions with a computer at work because there is no desk free, just the back of a forklift.

I've had frozen shoulder years ago due to a gym accident. That wasn't funny and took ages to heal. This one because I wan't following DSE advice and am not 20 any more 

40 years of computer use catching up with me 

[georgesgiralt]

Hello,
I've some cure for you.
Buy a vertical computer mouse (look at Evoluent.com they invented it but now you can find other models cheaper and different designs which may suit you better). It is a life changing move...
Then check if the TENS is available in your part of the world. IT is a little device for nerve electric stimulation which make pain something of the past. I had a permanent pain in the right arm resistant to pain killers and forcing me to have the arm clutched on my chest and not move it. This pain disappeared in a week...
This device is a French one. But the rationale on which it is based is known to science. So something similar may exist in your country. THis make living worth it again....
Just my 2 ¢

[dogshome]

 :Ah,yes, vertical mouse. I've had one about 2 years now. No wrist or elbow pain. 

I'm trying a wireless keyboard with touch mouse which I can put on my lap and keep my shoulders still. I know the clutching to the chest thing 

I hand not thought of tens. They are used here for women in labour.

[dogshome]

Now stocked up with Codein and Naproxin. TENS very cheap from local shop. So am trying that now. It's done something.

Drugs and electrocution has reduced the constant burning (mostly) and taken off some of the bite of sharp pains making me gasp when moving. But I shouldn't be getting pain like this from inflamed tendons? I had a frozen shoulde ryears ago and  that hurts, but not as bad as this. Maybe you feel it less at 25 than 60!

[dogshome]

A friend recommended a local osteopath - and I have/had a displaced bicep tendon. That's why it hurt so much. It would not have gotten better by itself.

The treatment was exactly as painful as you would expect and took two goes to pop the ligament back on the bone. A handful of acupuncture needles in it and industrial size Tens type machine in between.

He says it will really hurt tomorrow  so looking forward to that. £50 for the hou, which is a lot less than a garage. Bargain.

[georgesgiralt]

Hello
Long ago, a doctor specializing in old guys diseases told me that the first thing to do is stop the pain. Because it aggravate things. First you have an inflammation. This causes pain. This pain cause inflammation and everything is set up for going downhill...
So if you remove the pain, you have some chance the inflammation heal itself if it can.

I _do_ love my TENS device ! It saved me.

[dogshome]

Hi Georges, what I had is a "biceps tendon subluxation". It is apparently quite common.

The osteopath told me that some people he sees have been suffering for a year or more because the doctor has not diagnosed it. Mine was particularly spiteful and I could not live with it. Last night it was speaking to me, but in a good way. This morning I can get out of bed without yelling and gasping.

I do have tendonitis in the left (from the old injury) and that can be painful occasionally - like a toothache. This tendon displacement was more like a bone dislocation in terms of pain though - dominating.

Keith

[dogshome]

My man (who is a human incarnation of Shrek in body shape and humour) has stuck some more needles in me, hooked up a really serious TENS machine with an interferance pattern and had a nice young female assistant try to massage my bicep. She had a go, but my bicep (although in no way impressive these days) wasn't having it. She needs to start forestry, an old skool gym or professional arm wrestling    That sounds really sexist  My missus has the same trouble if trying to fix a muscle pain on me. I can grab her and work out any knots no problemo! 

Shrek, however, after his assistant got me into a nice false sense of security then proceeded to twist my shoulder where it didn't want to go. It hurt, but nothing like the first time and I'm sitting here pain free right-now. I can lift a pan of pasta and drive without taking a deep breath and looking like I'm in a slo-mo movie and gritting my teeth. 


He has seen persons with a undiagnosed bicep tendon dislocation for years suffering with shoulder pain. Our NHS do not (apparently) notice it. I know nothing about you or the French health service Geoarges, but I would recommend seeing an osteopath, chiropractor or sports injury specialist. I am a young spritely 60 and  perhaps not an 'old guy' yet, but I don't want to live with pain - and I would have if not for my friend's recommendation.

[georgesgiralt]

Hi !
Thanks for your concern ! Alas, I've seen many specialists and had a lot of imaging done on my shoulder. From ultra sound to magnetic resonance and X-rays.
My physio therapist tells me my pain comes from the tendon grabbing on the shoulder bone, my osteopath says my pain comes from cervical arthritis teasing the nerve, and my GP says there is nothing to do ...
I've also seen a sport muscle specialist which agree with the other three....
So ....

[skippyc]

Well none of them mentioned old age and wear and tear.

[dogshome]

A week in Majorca and sitting right up close to the keyboard at work is helping. Almost pain-free - apart from doing too much housework yesterday. I haven't got full range of movement yet and very little strength in the front deltoid (can raise arm just above level with a cup of tea...).

Another visit to Shrek next week. I have GOT to get it moving more before then. I KNOW exactly what he is going to do 

Not been able to do much and riding bike was no chance. Still the occasional 'electric shock' up the arm, but I don't feel it's going to collapse on me now. The bike riding position is exactly what it doesn't want, but I'll have a go soon.

As my MIL used to say "Old age and poverty"....

[dogshome]

Some more (minor) pain from Shrek a couple weeks ago. I put it out a week later getting the bike off the stand. I know what it feels like and how to put it back in myself now 😁

Some pain and little strength with arms out the front, thumbs up = tendon displaced a bit.

Putting it back involves pushing out with your fingers of the other hand on the tendon, then put the bad arm out to the side, rotate down and aim to a semi arm lock position. 2 or 3 goes required. Several variations on YouTube.

Biceps stretching also helping.