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Author Topic: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels  (Read 377 times)

Offline Bob_Roller

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Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« on: April 28, 2021, 11:58:59 AM »
I ordered a set of tires for my '81 R65 back in mid February front tire showed up in six days, the rear finally showed up yesterday, shipping delay from Europe .
I put a composite wheel from my parts bike on the rear of this bike about 8 years ago, I had a tire mounted and then decided the bike would be more or less a parts bike, so I put the composite wheel from an LS on the '81 .
I swapped the worn out composite wheel tire back to the parts bike, took the snowflake wheels to the local independent bike shop for mounting and balancing .
In this process I remembered that the brake shoes are different between the two style wheels, along with the two springs on the shoes .
Also the rear axles are a different length between the two wheels .
Not sure if this is the case or not with the front wheels .
I went to Metzeler Roadtec 01 tires, I put these tires on the '82 silver LS about 16 months ago, had the Me33-Me99, Lazertec tires since '85 on this bike, needed a change .
Have not had any wet road experience with these tires yet .
« Last Edit: April 30, 2021, 09:07:28 AM by Bob_Roller »
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS ?
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline mrclubike

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2021, 09:36:22 PM »
When I order Avon's off of eBay I get them in a day or 2 here in St Louis
No mater who I order them from they drop ship out of Illinois  or Tennessee  :clap:
 
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2004 R1150R

Offline Bob_Roller

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2021, 06:46:49 AM »
This was the first time I have ever had issues with getting tires since I started riding 42 years ago .
The rear tire is the ' freshest' tire I have ever gotten, manufacture date molded into the sidewall 0521, fifth week of 2021 .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS ?
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline Bengt_Phorqs

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 12:50:07 PM »
Bob, not sure I know what a composite wheel is, I'm assuming it's a cast wheel with the spokes at 90 degrees. Do you know if it's possible to mount a spoked wheel in place of a cast wheel?  The spoked wheel would need to come from a /5,6, or 7. 
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Offline Barry

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2021, 03:22:32 AM »
Fitting spoked wheels to an R65 has been done and I recall some posts here about it in the distant past but the 18" spoked wheel needed for the front will be as rare as hens teeth as I think they were only ever fitted to police bikes.
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« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 08:10:02 AM by Bob_Roller »
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS ?
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline Bob_Roller

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2021, 08:58:13 AM »
As far as spoke wheels, I have no idea, never had any experience with them .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS ?
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline Barry

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2021, 11:36:35 AM »
Just to show spoked wheels have been fitted to an R65. can't remember where I found the pic.



Barry Cheshire, England 79 R45

Offline Justin B.

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2021, 06:28:13 PM »
I seem to recall someone here doing the conversion...
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Offline Luca

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2021, 05:02:15 PM »
What about the elusive R65G/S?  Didn't that come with spoke wheels?
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Offline georgesgiralt

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2021, 01:27:19 PM »
Hello,
I know a guy in France which make a living (he is retired) by selling spoked wheels for Airheads.
HE says it is possible to make the conversion on the R6( but the front wheel need a special hub as the spacing between the fork legs is different from the others airhead. I can ask if you want to do it ...
HAve a nice week end ans stay safe !

Offline Tony Smith

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2021, 08:13:49 PM »
Bob I have trial fitted the LS wheel to my R65. The axle is the same for both LD and composite though I think the spacers may differ - I am unsure as I have non-standard spacers.

You must use the slimmer brake shoes as the standard shoes will not fit. The late model springs fit either.

My LS wheel was sold to me as "straight" which was a lie, it is currently off being rolled.

Spoked wheels from a /7 can  be made to fit albeit that you end up with a 19" front which is really no great problem other than adjusting the mudguard mounts.

I toyed with the idea of fitting a set of R100s wheels I had at the time, but that would have involved converting to a D SC rear end - doable but the concept didn't excite me.

In any event I went with a K100 front end and am fitting the LS rear rim to kind of match the K100 front.
1978 R100RS| 1981 R100RS (JPS) | 1984 R65 | 1992 KLE500 | 2002 R1150GSA |

Offline Tony Smith

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Re: Swapping Snowflake and Composite wheels
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2021, 01:20:08 PM »
Bob I have trial fitted the LS wheel to my R65. The axle is the same for both LD and composite though I think the spacers may differ - I am unsure as I have non-standard spacers.

You must use the slimmer brake shoes as the standard shoes will not fit. The late model springs fit either.

My LS wheel was sold to me as "straight" which was a lie, it is currently off being rolled.

Spoked wheels from a /7 can  be made to fit albeit that you end up with a 19" front which is really no great problem other than adjusting the mudguard mounts.

I toyed with the idea of fitting a set of R100s wheels I had at the time, but that would have involved converting to a D SC rear end - doable but the concept didn't excite me.

In any event I went with a K100 front end and am fitting the LS rear rim to kind of match the K100 front.
1978 R100RS| 1981 R100RS (JPS) | 1984 R65 | 1992 KLE500 | 2002 R1150GSA |