Thanks Lou, yep I know about HG kit - I had a set of their leathers that lasted 3 years until I 'outgrew' them

They were still like new.
And I have a leather 'street' jacket that I bought at least 10 years ago, have never cleaned or treated it, and it still looks like new. Can't fault the quality of their leather kit, I was just wondering about the textile stuff as things have moved along now and I'm after an all season textile jacket that can genuinely cope with icy weather (I hate being cold and wet on a bike).
The Paragon has had good reviews but I always ask around before buying - I've found a place that is selling them at £140 rather than £180-220 for the current version - I guess I've lived in Yorkshire for too long
