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Author Topic: Sidestand / Frame Failure  (Read 1054 times)

Offline Bob_Roller

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Sidestand / Frame Failure
« on: March 26, 2011, 07:37:46 PM »
Yesterday, I moved the oilhead and the '81 R65 around, so I could take the R65 to work today .

Bike seemed to be leaning a bit more than usual yesterday .

When I got home today, needed to get my Honda Civic out for a few essential weekend necessities (read: beer run), put the R65 on the side stand and noticed the left cylinder was a lot closer to the ground than it should be .

Got the bike on the center stand and found the countersunk screw that holds the side stand on, had backed out and had put a dent in the left header pipe .

On further inspection, I found the cast part of the frame the side stand bolts to cracked at the front and separated .

Looks like I need a bit of welding done !!!!!!!!
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

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Re: Sidestand / Frame Failure
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 08:50:35 PM »
I'll TIG weld it for ya, but you will have to ride 1300 miles!
Jerry ::)

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Re: Sidestand / Frame Failure
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2011, 01:27:30 PM »
I was just looking at mine Bob. That's a very substantial casting that is also the front engine mount.  On mine there is only a longitudinal weld presumably on both sides of the tube although I can only see the outside weld and it looks fine. I think it's normal practice not to weld across a frame tube as this could lead to a stress fracture. Where exactly has your weld failed ?
Barry Cheshire, England 79 R45

Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: Sidestand / Frame Failure
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2011, 01:10:34 AM »
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I was just looking at mine Bob. That's a very substantial casting that is also the front engine mount.  On mine there is only a longitudinal weld presumably on both sides of the tube although I can only see the outside weld and it looks fine. I think it's normal practice not to weld across a frame tube as this could lead to a stress fracture. Where exactly has your weld failed ?
You have to remember, Barry, that the early 249s and the later ones were significantly different - I think.

Offline Bob_Roller

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Re: Sidestand / Frame Failure
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2011, 10:16:34 AM »
Sorry I can't post any pictures, but the casting on my '81, is a lot different from what you describe on your bike .

This part has a loop look to it, and it cracked at the thinnest part at the front of the casting, probably at best 6 mm square .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!