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Offline montmil

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 10:08:56 PM »
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Yep, the correct term would be Reynolds Ride-Off Stand, but since you were in the military for so long, I should have styled it "Stand, motorcycle, ride-off, Reynolds, mil.spec.xxxxxxxxxxx.

Do you see what you've started, Mike? [smiley=ROTFLMAO.gif]

BTW, I scored the '83 R65 center stand offered by Larry "Lamont" Chabira on eBay. After measuring my '81 and '83 R65s chassis, I'm sure it will fit just fine. Goodbye, back strain!

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

Offline Justin B.

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2010, 10:30:59 PM »
Must be all '81s.  I swapped the Reynolds off my '81 R100 for a few days because I don't like the fact that on the road you'd need to find something to put under the stand if you needed to get a wheel off  the ground.  I couldn't get the stocker back off fast enough!  And on the opposite end of the spectrum was the '95, it was pretty much effortless...
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1981 R100RT - Summer bike, NEKKID!!!

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 06:28:55 AM »
The 1981 BMW center stand was/is most certainly an anomaly on the R65. Everyone hates 'em... except maybe Arnold, the Califonicator Governor.

My '83 R65 is an easy-up onto the stand. Fix the '81 and I'll be happy to give my back a rest.

Monte
Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

Dizerens5

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 03:40:14 PM »
On my 1979 R65 it's well easy to pull the thing on the stand. Getting it off is the problem! The stand goes way over-center, leaving both wheels firmly on the floor. This does not seem right but the stand does not look worn or bent. Mystery.

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 04:27:17 PM »
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On my 1979 R65 it's well easy to pull the thing on the stand. Getting it off is the problem! The stand goes way over-center, leaving both wheels firmly on the floor. This does not seem right but the stand does not look worn or bent. Mystery.

Given the pivot bushes are OK The problem is usually wear at the top edges of the stand where they butt up against the frame stops. They will need building up with weld and grinding down again to fit. My stand is getting the same way. I keep putting it off while I'm using the bike every day.
Barry Cheshire, England 79 R45

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2010, 11:50:32 AM »
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The 1981 BMW center stand was/is most certainly an anomaly on the R65. Everyone hates 'em... except maybe Arnold, the Califonicator Governor.

My '83 R65 is an easy-up onto the stand. Fix the '81 and I'll be happy to give my back a rest.

Monte

Mine works OK.  But I am a burly, muscular dude.

There, now NOBODY will recognize me at Redmond!   ;D
Ed Miller
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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2010, 01:16:29 PM »
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Yep, the correct term would be Reynolds Ride-Off Stand, but since you were in the military for so long, I should have styled it "Stand, motorcycle, ride-off, Reynolds, mil.spec.xxxxxxxxxxx.


My 80 r-65 came with a ride off stand putting it up on the stand is almost effortless and driving off is very nice the only problem encountered so far was using it on a gravel drive while I opened the manual gate at work and turning back to find the bike on it's head with the engine still running until it fludded out that (SUCKS) but the only damage was to the windshield a few scratches and a crack away from the upper mount hole I'm now looking for a new windseild.

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2010, 12:25:22 PM »
Thanks Barry I'm sure you're right. That's beyond my capacities as a mechanic so it's a job to add to a couple of others to be done soon by someone clever - I will try Cray Engineering in Faversham, about 20 miles away.

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2010, 01:32:55 PM »
Mister FedEx dropped off the new-to-me 1983 R65 center stand on Thursday. Cleaned it, worked it over with a metal prep disc, primed and painted. Installed on Monday.
   The 1981 R65 center stand design is a groin buster if there ever was one. It was a one-year-design only so us '81 owners can't be a girlie man.

Couple or so discoveries...

The 81 utilizes a pair of stamped metal "toggles" with big hooks for the springs welded on one end. These toggles pivot on short, frame-attached studs. The retract springs then attach to the toggle hooks and on down to the center stand. Lottsa hooks.

The 83 uses springs with longer straight ends that eliminate the earlier design toggles. The problem I discovered is that the engine crankcase secures the open end of the stud and also blocks removal of the toggles. The stud is used with the new stand but how the blankity-blank do you get the toggles off without removing the engine?
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Not enough room to Dremel cut 'em free but -cue the lightbulb- a pair of small, needlenose vise grips worked to bend the toggle back and forth until it work hardened and failed right at the stud attach opening. Whew.

The side stand pivot bushings for the 83 are shorter than those fitted to the 81. Fortunately, the new stand came with all the hardware and springs. Thank you, lamontsanford in Austin!

The second lightbulb lit when I found it to be far easier to attach the retract springs if I hooked 'em onto the center stand and frame studs before installing the stand's pivot bolts.

I've rolled the bike onto the new stand about a dozen times already just because it's now so easy. [smiley=clap.gif]

« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 01:33:41 PM by montmil »
Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

Offline Justin B.

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2010, 08:15:04 PM »
The holes in the spring mounts are key-hole shaped and the ones on our 1980 will come off if you push up and then off the pivot...
Justin B.

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1981 R100RT - Summer bike, NEKKID!!!

Offline montmil

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Re: R65 center stand
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2010, 07:21:06 AM »
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The holes in the spring mounts are key-hole shaped and the ones on our 1980 will come off if you push up and then off the pivot...

And so I noticed and Oh, how I tried. Lord knows I tried.

Unfortunately, the rolled edges of the toggle/shackle,POS, whatever, would not allow that good idea to happen. So it was kinda like NCSteve with his hammer, helping out SCJJ.

Monte
Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet