Mounting front tire woes...

[Justin B.]

Yeah, good  ol' Madge.  We use Dawn so maybe I just need to talk the  ol' lady into switching to Palmolive - if it's good enough for Madge's customers it should be good enough for rims!

[airhead]

Crikey, that Madge gets around!!! We had her as well, and Palmolive weren't even imaginative enough to change her name for Oz but got a person who had a ridiculous nasal over the top Australian accent.





She annoyed the hell out of me, and I always wondered how long before she got sued if it was real life. Almost as bad as that ad that had tooth product soaking into enamel on teeth 'Like ink soaks into this chalk'.................what the?...............but.............ahhh, forget it!!


Bill......................;-)

[Ringo]

Update: Last night I dismounted the tire, re-cleaned and lubed the rim and tire, re-mounted the tire and pumped it up to about 80 pounds with my little home tire pump. Rim wouldn't seat. Took it down to the quickie gaseteria and used the compressor. Nada. This morning I took it to Ray's Yamaha here in Greenfield. He laughed and TOOK THE VALVE STEM OUT. He lubed some more and pumped it up to 65-70 pounds. POP. He said the trick is to keep the stem out so that the air goes in FASTER. By the way, he didn't charge me anything and did it right then as I waited, so hats off and thanks Ray's.

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

Update: Last night I dismounted the tire, re-cleaned and lubed the rim and tire, re-mounted the tire and pumped it up to about 80 pounds with my little home tire pump. Rim wouldn't seat. Took it down to the quickie gaseteria and used the compressor. Nada. This morning I took it to Ray's Yamaha here in Greenfield. He laughed and TOOK THE VALVE STEM OUT. He lubed some more and pumped it up to 65-70 pounds. POP. He said the trick is to keep the stem out so that the air goes in FASTER. By the way, he didn't charge me anything and did it right then as I waited, so hats off and thanks Ray's.

GO RAY!  post his phone # and location in case anyone is nearby!

And EXCELLENT tech tip - Thanks Ray!

[Chris_in_BC]

I am trying to mount a new tire on the front of my LS. It seems I am not getting the bead set, as the tire is �crooked� when I spin it on the balancer. I have only changed a few tires before, but never on the LS and have not had this trouble before. . Any tips?

The R65 rims are a bear at the best of times. Some tires work better than others. One thing I have found that helps. If you can change the new tire on a hot sunny day and leave it out in the sun for an hour before you start. It does change easier if the rubber is warm rather than cold.

I also use lots of slop and have been up to 100psi before now (funny how you cringe as you do it as though that would help anything if it did blow.  :-/ ) I find often I have to let out the air, put on a bit more slop at the recalcitrant spot and do it again. You can also leave 60-80psi in it and let it sit out in the sun for an hour. Sometimes it will then seat.

And once the new tire has been on successfully and later you get a flat, you normally don't have a hassle getting it to seat a second time. So fixing it on the road is not the same difficulty as putting on a new tire at home.

[Chris_in_BC]

Update: Last night I dismounted the tire, re-cleaned and lubed the rim and tire, re-mounted the tire and pumped it up to about 80 pounds with my little home tire pump. Rim wouldn't seat. Took it down to the quickie gaseteria and used the compressor. Nada. This morning I took it to Ray's Yamaha here in Greenfield. He laughed and TOOK THE VALVE STEM OUT. He lubed some more and pumped it up to 65-70 pounds. POP. He said the trick is to keep the stem out so that the air goes in FASTER. By the way, he didn't charge me anything and did it right then as I waited, so hats off and thanks Ray's.

This does work well if the airline is just a straight feed.  Any air chuck that has the centre pin in it to depress the valve strem down won't work for you. So quite often the air line at a garage won't help you.

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

I was wasn't aware that the center of the tire chuck was the valve mechanism.  I never thought about it seriously before, but I guess I thought that there was a piece inside chuck that contacted the tip of the valve stem circumference and did it's thing.  It is easy to see where extreme industrial application could be different.  And of course, the fact that I don't know what I am talking about.  But it seems to me I have heard of garage mechanics removing the core before and temporarily filling the tire/tube with air.  We're talking decades, here, folk.  Old, fragmented...