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Author Topic: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?  (Read 7910 times)

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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2011, 07:55:49 PM »
I never imagined I'd see the day when I had 4 Terabytes of external hard drive storage, and I can fit it all into one hand - well, OK, maybe two.   Still, this is the way to go, and far beyond my wildest dreams when I was a computer operator in 1982, feeding shoeboxes' worth of FORTRAN 66 programs into a DEC computer with a whopping 200 Megabytes of disk drive space (encompassing 4 washing-machine sized cabinets for the disk drives alone).

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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 04:43:45 PM »
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Good stuff.  I've been wanting a 2nd drive (for imaging) ever since I built mine.
If my HD crashed, I would be really depressed.  My only external drive is a mere 60GB, not nearly big enough for everything I have on the internal drive.

Can't hardly complain about insufficient disk storage anymore.  I recently added a 2 TB SATA drive to my main PC and it was under $100!
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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2011, 02:26:15 PM »
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I never imagined I'd see the day when I had 4 Terabytes of external hard drive storage, and I can fit it all into one hand - well, OK, maybe two.   Still, this is the way to go, and far beyond my wildest dreams when I was a computer operator in 1982, feeding shoeboxes' worth of FORTRAN 66 programs into a DEC computer with a whopping 200 Megabytes of disk drive space (encompassing 4 washing-machine sized cabinets for the disk drives alone).


Even I remember stuff like that, and I'm not old like you guys.  How did that happen?

FORTRAN, NEAT3, COBOL, PASCAL, I forget the others.  Never learned BASIC somehow.  A fast typist like me can really make those old card punching machines make some noise.


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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2011, 11:29:34 PM »
rob,
I have an employee who is a wizard at this stuff - expect to hear from me in the near future!

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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2011, 12:47:31 AM »
I just switched email providers (to Gmail) and I created a book with a different and difficult password for every account I have on the internet.  I've memorized most of them.  I suppose that means it is time to change them.  :P

I don't anticipate changing my operating system soon.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2011, 12:48:42 AM by Rob_Valdez_79_R65 »

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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2011, 10:42:06 AM »
Update.  I did finally check out Linux.  I tried two different popular distros, but in the end it's still not ready for me prime time.  

I tried Mint and Ubuntu.  Installed Mint 10 first on a laptop as a single operating system just for simplicity's sake.  I quickly grew to love it, and then steadily grew frustrated enough with it to switch back to winxppro

I ended up preferring Mint over Ubuntu simply for the intuitiveness of the GUI which is by far, and I mean by FAR, the most important aspect of any computer utility that I use.  In Ubuntu I was constantly moaning "why did they do it this way?  why put that there"  "every time i try to return to previous page the wrong taskbar pops up since it's so close to the return button it's unavoidable."  Where the heck is the 'terminal'"?  

In Ubuntu it's not as if it's just a matter of reacquaintance,  the layout just seems almost purposely hard to navigate.  And it's not necessarily the case that Mint is more "like" windows.  Mint and Ubuntu's GUI are equally unique in that regard.  But with mint you're able to just cruise along and get things done mostly on intuition, where in Ubuntu you're constantly in the Linux formus asking "how do I....?"

That was my experience anyway, but it corresponds with many other comments on the web.  Mint is a less well known/popular distro so it gets less attention.   It may be that it's not as well put together for the very 'hard core' Linux type once you really get under the hood, but we're not talking that kind of use here for the most part.    

In the end, what drove me away was my previous dependence on a few utilities that Linux either had poor equivalents for, or was unable to run successfully with "Wine" (windows program emulator that enables many, but not most, windows software to run under Linux).

There is no easy,  well documented and user supported,  useful CAD program like Sketchup for Linux.   Google has still not come out with a Linux version (not suprisingly) and Sketchup running via Wine is buggy and frustrating.

Microsoft Streets and Trips on a laptop has been, and remains, my favorite travel tool.  Been so for almost fifteen years now (I was an early fan).   I run it on an HPmini with an ultrabright 10.5 inch screen, a fantastically sensitive USB antenna, and nearly full size keyboard, and it is velcro'ed to a DIY'd adjustable mount emerging from the dash of my car right next to the steering wheel.   I'm spoiled and could never live with a tiny magellan sized screen and no full keyboard.   I can detatch the whole thing in one second and put in my carry case or luggage when not in use.   And of course,  Streets and Trips chokes on Wine in Linux.  And there are no really good equivalents in Linux.

These were just two of a dozen or so utilities that I kept running into that Linux just couldn't "do" well for me.  

Linux, in my estimation now that I've tried it for about four months,  is just too much hassle for a very significant number of users right in the middle of the scale of expertise and expectation.  

At the entry level of that scale are those who want "plug and play" simplicity for 99 percent of their needs; wireless connectivity,  email use, browsing,  fun and useful little programs like versions of notepad,  screen capture,  music burning utilities,  etc, etc.   I've got friends who I turned on to Mint who are happy as clams with it for its ease of use and speed.  Unlike windows, 75 percent of the time that you want a little utility that will do a job you want, it's in the software manager in your Linus distro and a single click of a button will go out into the internet for you,  locate it, install it, and run it trouble free instantly.    For this type of user,  they may never even join a Linux user's forum.  

The other end of the user spectrum are those few who are really hard core computer users who are just cartwheel happy that Linux arrives like an automobile with all the factory blueprints and special tools in the trunk to COMPLETELY overhaul, diagnose, and even reengineer the thing to your boundless desire.  Most of us just want a dependable car to drive and a mechanic handy if things go wrong.  Not these guys.  And Linux is made to order for them.   They rule the Linux forums.  

But I'm among those in the middle who want my system to do more, and there is not a Linux Distro yet that has matched the "average consumer" expectations that Microsoft has catered to.   Life's too short to switch just for some vague notion of rebellion,  to be 'cool' under the Linux umbrella,  or to beat your head bloody trying to get something to just do its job quietly in the background like most of my Windows stuff does.  I'm that type of user who can't get far in Linux without participating in the user's forums, and immediately finds himself many MANY hours into the rabbit holes therein,  wondering if this is time well spent.  

Maybe next year.    

Sorry to talk yer ears off.  

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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2011, 09:50:57 PM »
Ubuntu is def, def, definately the way to go.  I use it on several boxes and carry a portable version on a flash drive.   Good stuff.

There are different layouts that are more similar to windows..

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Re: Anyone here run Linux on their PC?
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2011, 01:23:54 AM »
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Hi All,

Yes I use Ubuntu Linux on my home PC, my work PC and on my netbook. I have been playing around with Linux since 2001, and deserted Windows back but it was a hard run back then.

I have played with lots of different Linux distributions but when Ubuntu came online I jumped at it. I kept trying different versions of Ubuntu until this year I decided to go over for good, partly as my home XP installation was chugging and I refused to go over to a new version of Windows.

Ubuntu is great as it is based on the Debian distribution and hence uses the apt package system which is the best IMHO. The other thing with Linux is if you choose a  small distribution, lots of 3rd party software is not packaged for you. If you go Ubuntu life is easier as most Linux available software is packaged for Ubuntu.

Ubuntu does a Live CD install so you can test the hardware setup you have works. To state the bleeding obvious make sure you backup as it is easy to make a mistake and wipe a Windows partition.

Lastly if you share your computer with someone (such as a wife) make sure she is on-board. Mine was dragged somewhat into the Linux world. Not entirely happy but she knows I am head of IT in the house. (only dept I head  :-[).

Good luck, feel free to ask for help.

Paul

Hey thanks for this stuff really very helpful!! Even i want to install it but first want some information about it but you have given it very well!! Hey do you know any link where I can found these software so that i can download it!!