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Offline Tony Smith

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G650GS
« on: April 11, 2016, 05:46:00 PM »
My wife, Sylvia, has bought herself a G650GS as a retirement present, it arrives in the next 10 days or so.

Fear not, she is not abandoning "Brunhilde" her beloved 1979 R65/80 that she has owned since new, she is simply looking for more options in terms of places to ride and having seen where I can comfortably go with the KLE decided her. Well that and the run out special price of $AUS9,990 registered on the road.

For her nearly $10k she has a G650GS with the "enduro pack," namely wire wheels, sump protector and hand guards. She was very taken with the P/D version that could have been had for a few more dollars, but it is even taller than the GS and we are going to have to lower that for her.

BMWs price to fit "factory" low suspension (1.5" lower) was $AUS400 for the parts plus labour. The factory lowering kit consists of longer dogbones, a different ratio suspension "rocker" and possibly (not sure on this) a modified top mount on the shock absorber.

Thing is she can just about ride it as is, it is just a smidgeon too tall. Enter the US firm of "Happy Trails" and a 1" drop set of dogbones were ordered yesterday. When they arrive I will paint them silver before fitting and I doubt the BMW service techs will notice when it goes back for its 1st and 2nd services. I will drop the front by 3/4" as well by simply sliding the forks up the triple clamps and that should be that.

Now, the point to this - does anyone here have much experience with the 650 in all is various guises? In particular stuff like maintenance schedules, any unavoidable special tools needed, workshop manual and the big one - what sort of scan tool do I need (if I need one at all) to deal with the ECU.

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Re: G650GS
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2016, 07:35:55 PM »
Suecanada (also a very petite lady) rode a G650 for sometime a while back.   She's traded bikes a couple times, but can probably offer some pertinent advice.

Those bikes are frequently found used for sale around here at relatively decent prices and pretty clean condition.   Fit up with some aluminum panniers and you've got a real adventure machine
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Re: G650GS
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2016, 09:55:51 PM »
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Suecanada (also a very petite lady) rode a G650 for sometime a while back.   She's traded bikes a couple times, but can probably offer some pertinent advice.

Those bikes are frequently found used for sale around here at relatively decent prices and pretty clean condition.   Fit up with some aluminum panniers and you've got a real adventure machine


I will PM Suecanada and see what she says.

You are not wrong with how available these things are on the 2nd hand market. Initially my alarm bells went off thinking that there must be some deep, dark problems causing people to want to be rid of them - then the penny dropped.

In Australia, like many other countries, we have a Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme (LAMS) which means that instead of having the old style cubic capacity limit, a low experience rider can ride any LAMS approved motorcycle. To get on the LAMS list the bike must generate less than 150hp per 1,000kg using the true kerb weight of the motorcycle (which caused a stir when it first came out because manufacturers are like women in that they severely understate the weight of their offerings - in this case more is better. Anyway the F650 and G650 series have been immensely popular as first motorcycles and as the owners progress to larger bikes their discards add somewhat to the glut.

Under normal circumstances we would have bought a second hand machine, in fact that was an option right up until the contract was signed yesterday. Simply put but the time the asking price on a late model/low mileage machine was paid, and you then added the cost of a full service prior to riding it home to Far north Queensland (or the cost of transport) and then factor things like tyres and registration, the $9,990 on the road with 12 months registration started looking better and better.

Plus, herself became enamored of the white and red variety and there were no suitable examples for sale. The closest was a 2014 model with 19,000 kilometres on it, but the owner wanted $8,500 for it, it needed tyres and chain and whilst in Queensland, it only had 4 months registration left. What it did have was a never used set of BMW factory panniers and top box which would have done it for me (it also had the factory lowering kit fitted) BUT it was yellow, and yellow is apparently "Yucky".

So that was the end to that......


On the topic of LAMS, certain small capacity "rocket ships" are excluded, and there is a hard limit of 700cc. Most of the manufacturers make LAMS de-rated versions of popular bikes, either by engine mapping or by fitting intake restrictors (which can be removed once the rider is no longer subject to the LAMS requirements).

It's a sensible system, part of me wishes something similar had been in place when I started riding - a few more of my friends might be alive now.
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Re: G650GS
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2016, 06:01:15 AM »
Tony,

I have a 2003 F650 GSD which I have not ridden in a while.  It is a good honest bike and sits at highway speeds with reasonable fuel economy.  Just don't give it a flogging.  

My maintenance has just been oil and filters.  Pretty simple stuff.  The bash plate is a bit of a pain during oil changes.  It is the single spark plug model and I bought it new from Pickerings in Townsville when I was up your way.  Not a lot of miles on it and second hand ones go for around 5-6K.  

My only real complaints with it are it does not have a centre stand and the BMW panniers are pathetically small, even with the expansion joint.  Oh, and it is chain driven.  

I made a couple of mesh protection guards for the radiator as it is pretty exposed and I bought some "Pelican" style hard cases from Bunnings to replace the BMW panniers and to mount a top box.  Just a matter of time to get them mounted and they are tougher than the bike itself.  The BMW panniers will dent if you drip them.  

Overall it is fun to ride, especially around town being a big single.   8-)

Cheers, Burt.
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Re: G650GS
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2016, 06:35:42 AM »
Thanks for your comments Burt. The G650GS does in fact have a centre stand. I agree that the panniers are likely to have a short life in most people's hands.

But herself is not most people, she still has a pair of Krauser Starlets that came with her R65 in 1979 and they are in perfect working order.
 
Been wondering about the top box myself, she is not planning to pay BMW's price for one, I use a nameless brand i buy from thirdgear.com.au. The oldest one is now 4 years old and still going strong - not bad for around $60.

i may have to get a bit "creative" making mounts for the G650 though.
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