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Offline montmil

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Be gentle. It's my first time...
« on: April 20, 2009, 06:38:43 PM »
... to replace a timing chain.

Looking for some tips, warnings, good ideas, do's n' dont's plus some moral support as I attempt to replace the timing chain on my 1981 R65.

MotoBins provides a complete package of parts for the timing chain renewal. I ordered the kit as it was well below the total prices tallied for the individual parts from other sources. I expect delivery of the MotoBins order this Thursday, 23 April. I'm booked with two grand-daughters for Saturday but Sunday is open, so far.

Couple questions after reading a good DIY from Matt Parkhouse out of Denver CO plus the usual trial by Snowbum... Lottsa chaff but not enough wheat.

So... 1)Is it really necessary to remove the forward crankshaft bearing for chain replacement? 2)Same question regarding the exhaust pipes. I have a frozen exhaust header pipe nut and will have to saw it off if it's necessary for the chain job. This chore will have to be tackled eventually but hopefully not this weekend.

If you have been to my next destination, give a shout to a brother R65er. Thanks for any help.

Monte


Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

Offline Bob_Roller

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Re: Be gentle. It's my first time...
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 07:50:46 PM »
First if you don't have an alternator rotor removal tool, you need to get one, or make one.

If you are not pulling the sprocket, you don't need to remove the bearing.

If you have the crossover tube at the front of the engine, the exhaust system needs to come off, the timing case won't clear the pipe.

I removed the  pipes as one assembly, as I couldn't get the crossover pipe loose from the header pipes.

Upon reassembly, couldn't get the pipes into the heads correctly, and had to cut the forward crossover pipe.

I made some longitudinal cuts, and after working with a small regular screwdriver, finally got it loose, but it didn't look great when I got done, eventually replaced the pipe.

So you may want to try penetrating oil on all of the exhaust joints, to try and loosen them up before you get into the job.

Once you have the timing cover off, you may want to reattach the battery cable back on the battery, hit the start button, and note the direction of chain movement, for correct installation on the master link clip.

I marked both sprockets with a dab of paint on the sprockets, and the front of the engine case, so I would know if any movement of the sprockets occured.

Put some shop rags into the openings below the timing chain, to prevent small parts from disappearing, I don't think it would be a big deal, as I think they would end up in the oil pan, and it's not a real big job to remove the oil pan.

Reattaching the master link is a bit of a job, I used some tywraps to hold the ends of the chain together, then installed the old master link from the front side to get it lined up, then installed the new master link from the back side, took all of a minute or two, I think I got lucky too !!!

Then install the master link clip with the closed end in the direction of rotation.

Only thing that would cause any problems on reassembly, is to remember to put the two small paper seals where the attach bolts go through at the top of the case .
« Last Edit: April 20, 2009, 08:22:44 PM by Bob_Roller »
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline Justin B.

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Re: Be gentle. It's my first time...
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 12:52:51 AM »
I did a writeup on this a while back complete with pictures.  Use the search function on all dates...
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clouseau

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Re: Be gentle. It's my first time...
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 06:19:35 PM »
Here is an interesting list of do's & don't's that I found not too long ago.
http://wisconsin.airheads.org/content/view/37/51/
This site has been a wealth of info for a newbie such as myself.

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Re: Be gentle. It's my first time...
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 01:47:42 AM »
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Only thing that would cause any problems on reassembly, is to remember to put the two small paper seals where the attach bolts go through at the top of the case .  


Aha! That's what they are for those seals lying about in my "new parts" box. I've been wondering now for a couple of years.

greetings from a grey morning in the north

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Re: Be gentle. It's my first time...
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 10:13:20 AM »
The paper gaskets/washers, are installed on the back side of the timing case with a little adhesive.
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline Justin B.

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Re: Be gentle. It's my first time...
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2009, 10:19:13 AM »
They serve no sealing purpose whatsoever but are basically "shims".  I have read that if these are left out then the timing cover can be cracked at the top when tightened as there is no support under the two uppermost bolt holes...
Justin B.

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1981 R100RT - Summer bike, NEKKID!!!