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Author Topic: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching  (Read 4832 times)

Offline dogshome

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2023, 09:30:32 PM »
Rear bevel drive.
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Offline Steve

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2023, 10:30:10 AM »
"Rear bevel drive" sounds like you're talking about the ring gear and pinion. Exposing that would require special tools I don't have. Or are you talking about the straight splines that directly drive the wheel? They are on the outward-facing end of the ring gear, and are visible with the wheel removed.

Offline dogshome

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2023, 10:22:31 PM »
Oh no, just the spline that you see when removing the rear wheel.
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肉(r?u)包(bāo)子(zi)打(dǎ)狗(gǒu) (meat+bun(2nd and 3rd)+hit+dog)
* Literally: To hit a dog with a meat-bun.:-O

Offline Steve

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2023, 10:23:41 AM »
The final drive splines, the ones that are on the output side of the ring gear with matching splines in the wheel, are about 70% worn out. I'm going to have it fixed by a mechanic I have located. Don't know if it will fix the bucking, though.

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2023, 09:39:35 AM »
My friend with the flies in his teeth is probably right then. If you only have a third of the spline width left, that could be your problem.

Weld on replacements can be had, but I would look for a used final drive. R65 ones are usually available as most people change the fd. For a higher ratio with engine mods.

If you have a variable speed gun drill, they are very easy to test just sat on a bench.couple up with tape to the input, spin it at a slow speed and listen. I have a vid on YouTube.
肉(r?u)包(bāo)子(zi)打(dǎ)狗(gǒu) (meat+bun(2nd and 3rd)+hit+dog)
* Literally: To hit a dog with a meat-bun.:-O

Offline dogshome

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2023, 09:40:49 AM »
Changing the fd is very simple. If you can take the wheel out, you can do that.
肉(r?u)包(bāo)子(zi)打(dǎ)狗(gǒu) (meat+bun(2nd and 3rd)+hit+dog)
* Literally: To hit a dog with a meat-bun.:-O

Offline Steve

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2024, 06:55:29 AM »
I am happy to report that I found a slightly used final drive and had it installed (along with other work). And the roll-on roll-off bucking is gone!

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2024, 07:41:37 AM »
Great that you finally found the issue !
Learned something new about this bike, never heard of this issue before .
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Offline dogshome

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Re: Roll-on / roll-off bucking or lurching
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2024, 08:02:23 PM »
I am happy to report that I found a slightly used final drive and had it installed (along with other work). And the roll-on roll-off bucking is gone!

Thanks for letting us know and glad it's fixed :beerchug:

肉(r?u)包(bāo)子(zi)打(dǎ)狗(gǒu) (meat+bun(2nd and 3rd)+hit+dog)
* Literally: To hit a dog with a meat-bun.:-O