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Title: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: montmil on November 15, 2013, 10:30:05 AM
You have to read this to actually believe it happened.

In the large Navy community of Jacksonville, Florida, a veteran of the USArmy complained to Old Navy store management regarding a teenaged store employee wearing a full dress Marine Corps uniform, including decorations. Clerk was impersonating a legit member of the US Armed forces. Old Navy called LEOs and banned the Army vet from the store. Ultimately, a non-apology was issued by corporate Old Navy owner, GAP.

Personally, I'm done with any Old Navy or GAP store. Disgusting.

http://www.examiner.com/article/army-veteran-banned-from-old-navy-store-over-teen-employee-marine-uniform
Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: Burt on November 15, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
Thanks Mont,

Next time I am stateside I will give them the flick for cheap clothes. I'll stick with Bass Pro and Cabellas.  8-)

Cheers, Burt.
Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: nhmaf on November 15, 2013, 10:14:39 PM
Not only is it incredibly ignorant and disrespectful, it is breaking federal law to fraudulently wear an official military service uniform and/or official military decorations, punishable by up to 1 year of jail time.

Even IF the store manager was ignorant of the law, ignorance of the law is no excuse.   And, the response & treatment of the army veteran who was fully in the right to point this out was totally unacceptable.   None of my friends will shop there now.  Upper management better think carefully about their next response to the situation should be, or they will alienate many more shoppers just in time for the holiday season.
Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: montmil on November 16, 2013, 07:12:09 AM
Stolen Valor Act


To get an idea of the fire storm Old Navy/GAP has created, click on 'Recent posts by Others'.

https://www.facebook.com/oldnavy?ref=br_tf



Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: Ed Miller on November 19, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
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Not only is it incredibly ignorant and disrespectful, it is breaking federal law to fraudulently wear an official military service uniform and/or official military decorations, punishable by up to 1 year of jail time.

Then they shouldn't be donated to Goodwill, I guess.  Where else can I buy quality, made in the USA BDU pants for a few bucks a pair?  I don't mind if they have somebody else's name on the back pocket.

Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: Lucky_Lou on November 19, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
Forgive my ignorance but is GAP the same one as we have on our high street here in the UK ? seems like a spectacular home goal pretty stupid in these times of austerity.....
Lou
Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: montmil on November 19, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
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Not only is it incredibly ignorant and disrespectful, it is breaking federal law to fraudulently wear an official military service uniform and/or official military decorations, punishable by up to 1 year of jail time.

Then they shouldn't be donated to Goodwill, I guess.  Where else can I buy quality, made in the USA BDU pants for a few bucks a pair?  I don't mind if they have somebody else's name on the back pocket.


Wearing a used pair of BDU/ACU pants from Goodwill is far different than wearing a full dress Marine uniform, complete with service decorations, while clerking at a store. Even doing that is a regs violation for actual service members. Way different. I still have my dress "Blue Suit" bagged in my closet along with several pair of BDUs that still see some time in the woods or shop, but I know the difference between proper and improper wear of the uniform.

And as a side note, you'd be surprised at the number of active duty Soldiers that buy previously owned uniform replacements at surplus stores. The Army basic annual clothing allowance does not go very far for an Enlisted.

This Old Navy clerk kid idiot has created a nationwide public relations nightmare for his employer. Generations of men and women have died wearing the uniform of their Service. The punk clerk disrespects their sacrifices and those that still serve.
Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: Julio A. on November 20, 2013, 10:33:16 AM
Whoa, saying this incident rude is a monumental understatement.

Wearing BDU's has no repercussions, putting on the patches and chevrons and posing as a ranked member of a particular unit is.

I bet GAP is feeling the backlash from this incident especially this season.
Title: Re: Old Navy bans USArmy vet
Post by: Ed Miller on November 20, 2013, 11:28:50 AM
In a Navy community, no less.