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General Category => Totally Off-Topic Discussions, Rants, Tire & Oil Threads, Etc. => Topic started by: Lucky_Lou on May 04, 2013, 01:05:51 PM
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Had a great day out today, good weather and once my buddy and i got going with the black powder we had the range to ourselves. We were shooting 45/70,s and just for kicks some 22LR (no shortage here)
for the uninitiated i have put a 45/70 head against a 22LR so you get an idea of scale, the head is a 508 grain (33 gram) has a range of 3500 yards but most folk rarely go beond 1000, we are shooting at 100 yards on this range.............. biking tomorrow wifey permitting
Lou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq3_Xc557q4&list=UU3BZ4K4GKbOsQAWcm4di8xw&index=2
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Ignore all the holes as the backing sheet had been used before we putt 7 out of 10 in the black
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Okay Lou, we shared slightly similar days.
The AR was used for plinking the day before. The target stuff was done today with open sights (terminology???) no scope from about 150 yards with a 22. First time shooting anything in many many many years. Did skeet shooting today with a 12 gauge as well. That was fun, but I think I enjoy the target shooting more.
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The rifle your holding looks like a Semi automatic which in th UK you cannot get a licence for, we shoot with Creedmore vernier sights on the 45/70 which you can probebly see on the video clip they are really acruate with adjustments for windage and elevation, Jon thrashed me this time grouping 7 out of 10 in the black not bad for 1870 technology....
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here is Jon getting a lucky bull..
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Lou
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Lou, all I can say is the Comanche would have been all over your hair. Pick up a book, "Empire of the Summer Moon", biography of Quanah Parker and story of the Comanche. A very good read.
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I just got the proper connection to watch your video. Fine indeed.
Without question, I am totally in the dark with this stuff. I never really shot in the past to be recognized as an enthusiast, let alone a beginner. If I get a chance to do this again I will try to work on a single technique for shooting. I had tried a mix of both free standing, resting my forearm on a surface, and a tiny bit of seated shooting over a table top.
To me there's nothing more enjoyable than working on hitting the mark. That other semi automatic stuff and blasting the living crap out of things with the shot gun is fun for only a short while.
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Looks like fun. Lou. I tried rifle several time, and except for the .22 rifle team when I back in high school, I am not a huge fan of rifles.
But I do love handguns. I participate in three gun bullseye (.22, centerfire of any caliber, and .45acp) at 25 yards on bullseye targets, PPC (Police Pistol Combat/Competition) which is centerfire revolver at 7, 25 and 50 yards on silohette targets with scorng rings, and any of the practical pistol competition disciplines (.45 acp) at ranges from 3 to 50 yards on silohette targets without scoring rings and/or falling plates and/or bowling pins. All of my guns are open sights, except for one gun that has a laser sight and is used for home defense and some practical pitsol. Oh yes, for fun I play around with .45 caliber muzzle loading cap lock pistol using black powder.
I love the challenge of bulleye, but I also love developing the useful skills involved in practical (drawing, double tapping, weak hand only, etc.). I just wish I had more time and money for the shooting sports.
k_enn
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Lou, all I can say is the Comanche would have been all over your hair. Pick up a book, "Empire of the Summer Moon", biography of Quanah Parker and story of the Comanche. A very good read.
I am currently reading "On the Border with Mckenzie" which has some intresting descriptions of places in 1800,s Texas and the Indian wars.
Lou
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Looks like fun. Lou. I tried rifle several time, and except for the .22 rifle team when I back in high school, I am not a huge fan of rifles.
But I do love handguns. I participate in three gun bullseye (.22, centerfire of any caliber, and .45acp) at 25 yards on bullseye targets, PPC (Police Pistol Combat/Competition) which is centerfire revolver at 7, 25 and 50 yards on silohette targets with scorng rings, and any of the practical pistol competition disciplines (.45 acp) at ranges from 3 to 50 yards on silohette targets without scoring rings and/or falling plates and/or bowling pins. All of my guns are open sights, except for one gun that has a laser sight and is used for home defense and some practical pitsol. Oh yes, for fun I play around with .45 caliber muzzle loading cap lock pistol using black powder.
I love the challenge of bulleye, but I also love developing the useful skills involved in practical (drawing, double tapping, weak hand only, etc.). I just wish I had more time and money for the shooting sports.
k_enn
I do a bit of Cowboy action shooting with my pals but we are restricted to Black powder for handguns but competitions like that are great fun.
On the range we frequently have "Underlever" competitions at various distances but there is nothing as satisfying as the 45/70 from a skill point of view.
Lou
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To me there's nothing more enjoyable than working on hitting the mark. That other semi automatic stuff and blasting the living crap out of things with the shot gun is fun for only a short while.
I'm with you on hitting the mark. To be honest I like archery even better, as it's quiet. But you have to go fetch the arrows.
But you can shoot a semi-auto as slowly as you want. Blasting away is not manditory.
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To be honest I like archery even better, as it's quiet.
There you go Ed. I agree. I have to try that, at least once.
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I do a bit of Cowboy action shooting with my pals but we are restricted to Black powder for handguns but competitions like that are great fun.
On the range we frequently have "Underlever" competitions at various distances but there is nothing as satisfying as the 45/70 from a skill point of view.
Lou
Black powder handgun is a blast -- once you get used to seeing through the smoke. :)
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Black powder handgun is a blast -- once get you get used to seeing through the smoke. :)
I shoot a .36 Colt pistol and a .44 remmy at 25 yards the Colt is more acrurate than the remmy i think it is becacause it as less kick either way you would not want to get in the way of these as we are hitting within inches of the black
Lou
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Lou,
I understand you may be limited to black powder for handguns, but are you restricted to percussion cap or can you use metallic cartridges with black powder in a handgun?
Either way, "rapid fire" must be pretty slow having to wait for the smoke to dissipate. :)
k_enn
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Lou,
I understand you may be limited to black powder for handguns, but are you restricted to percussion cap or can you use metallic cartridges with black powder in a handgun?
Either way, "rapid fire" must be pretty slow having to wait for the smoke to dissipate. :)
k_enn
We use percussion cap, metallic cartridges in pistol calibers (44-40, 357 etc) are ok with rifles but a no no for hand guns, we load 5 chambers and remove the 6th nipple for safety, when Cowboy action shooting generally it is 10 pistol 10 rifle and 4 shotgun targets one of the guys took 10 pistol targets down in 7 seconds at our last event not bad !!!.
You can use black powder substitutes such as Pirodex which dont smoke so much and you dont need a licence to buy it (or primers) which is crazy given the other restrictions we have.
Lou
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I've used pyrodex in my muzzleloading rifle for deer hunting, but once I am through with my present lot I'm going to switch to another product, 777 (Triple 7), which seems to be cleaner burning and easier to cleanup afterward.
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Lou, if you ever do get back to Texas we can take you to the places in Carter's book. There is a Texas Forts Trail that covers a lot of what was Comancheria. Plus the best dadgum steak you'll ever sink your teeth into at The Bee Hive restaurant in downtown Albany, TX.
I was in a Bass Pro Shops today and stopped by the shooting aisle. Not a single handgun primer to be had in the store. I inherited my brother in laws reloading set up and while I still have a lot of reloads, there are also hundreds of brass cases and lead bullets. Just no primers. How long can this dearth of primers go on???