The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
General Category => Totally Off-Topic Discussions, Rants, Tire & Oil Threads, Etc. => Topic started by: 2dogs1cat on February 21, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
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The Mrs and I are toying with the idea of coming down for a visit. We live up over here in Halifax (http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Halifax,+NS&hl=en&ll=44.645208,-63.566895&spn=4.728608,11.634521&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=34.40373,93.076172&oq=Halifax&hnear=Halifax,+Halifax+County,+Nova+Scotia&t=m&z=7). We're interested in Native American art and culture, art galleries, museums and nature. Contemplating coming in April for 10 to 14 days. Would be interested in staying in Bed and Breakfasts.....any suggestions and/or recommendations?
Thanks
:^)
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I will watch this one with interest, you may wish to ask the question here.....This site has Native American Members and other members who are experts in all things to do with the American West in the 17th to 19th century
http://www.theshootists.co.uk/
Click on community forum then you will see Native American Matters
TsalagiDave is your man ... he is one.
You will find "Luck Lou" in there but i only know about things that go bang.
Lou
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I have lived in "the world's largest sandbox" all my life. Not sure what that says about me. Tucson is a nice place, lots of history. If your looking for real old time stuff, and great roads, try Globe. They have several B&Bs. They have a great one in a converted 100 year old school. Prescott is very nice, used to be the state capitol, kind of pricey.
Phx is the capitol and largest metro area, just about anything you could want, but large and busy. Just depends on what you like. You might want to check the Indian Tribe web sites for planned activities.
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I have lived in "the world's largest sandbox" all my life. Not sure what that says about me. Tucson is a nice place, lots of history. If your looking for real old time stuff, and great roads, try Globe. They have several B&Bs. They have a great one in a converted 100 year old school. Prescott is very nice, used to be the state capitol, kind of pricey.
Phx is the capitol and largest metro area, just about anything you could want, but large and busy. Just depends on what you like. You might want to check the Indian Tribe web sites for planned activities.
I am in the trip planning stage Tuscon is on my route,(roughly Phx AZ to Huston TX and any where in between) i would be interested in any "off the beaten track" places avoiding tourist traps like the plague suggestions welcome.
Lou
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Sounds like a good trip Lou. You have a couple of ways to go. If you head south from Phx the route is mostly desert. Few towns and lots of straight lines. Tucson first, then Juarez, a border town, San Antonio and into Houston.
If you want to head north and then head east you will see a lot more trees and towns. You could go thru Albuquerque, Amarillo, Lubbock and Abilene and then to Houston. Sort of the old west hall of fame. Lots more miles though.
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Make sure you check out Page, AZ and get pictures of the monument they must have to my birth there. I haven't seen it yet.
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I am looking at a Winter/Spring trip as it will be more comfortable and a reccy north via SilverCity Santa Fe and Fort Sumner i have to work out mileages ect as it looks like i may only have 10-14 days and dont want to spend it all on the road, i may terminate at Fort worth instead of Huston lot of work to do before then though.
Lou
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You really heading over Lou? About damb time! Are you wanting to see Fort Sumner for Billy The Kid? It's a really thin slice of life there. Few places to stay and fewer still to dine. The museum is, shall we say, a bit on the seedy side. But over all, New Mexico is one of our favorite rides. Great roads and most are not overly busy.
Keep us informed of your plans as we'd love to see you in person.
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I really liked Flagstaff, and Mesa AZ myself. Also, you gotta go check out Meteor Crater! ;-)
We didn't stay in any, but I seemed to recall seeing a number of B&Bs in the Flagstaff area. And, it isn't that much of a drive up to the Grand canyon either - the south edge has some nice views, IMHO, though I guess the north edge is the more popular. Lots of native people's communities around, too. We try to support them by buying as many souveniers they sell when we are there! :)
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You really heading over Lou? About damb time! Are you wanting to see Fort Sumner for Billy The Kid? Keep us informed of your plans as we'd love to see you in person.
will start a new thread seems i have hijacked this one.....
Lou
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This may help 2 dogs......
Lou
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This is a bit more AZ specific.
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I'll attempt to post places that I know of in Aridzona that may be of interest to you .
This will be an ongoing posting for a few days, so be patient !!!
This is the Phoenix area, then heading north .
Some of the links that have 100's of pictures, the first part are of the subject location, then they tend to wander off the subject after a while .
The Heard Museum in Phoenix, is one of the best Native American museums in the region .
http://heard.org/
Gilbert Ortega Museum and Galleries, is located in Scottsdale, as the name implies, it's a museum and retail store .
http://www.frommers.com/destinations/phoenix/S22092.html
Pueblo Grande is a pre-Columbian settlement about 2 miles from Skyharbor airport in Phoenix .
http://www.pueblogrande.org/
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pueblo+grande&qpvt=pueblo+grande&FORM=IGRE#x0y0
Montezuma Castle is about 110 miles north of Phoenix .
http://www.nps.gov/moca/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=montezuma+castle&qpvt=montezuma+castle&FORM=IGRE
Tuzigoot is about 20-30 miles or so west of Montezuma Castle .
http://www.nps.gov/tuzi/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tuzigoot&qpvt=tuzigoot&FORM=IGRE
Sedona is about 30 miles west/southwest of Montezuma Castle, a favorite tourist area .
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sedona&qpvt=sedona&FORM=IGRE
Wupatki is about 190 miles north of Phoenix , about 30 miles or so north of Flagstaff .
http://www.nps.gov/wupa/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=wupatki&qpvt=wupatki&FORM=IGRE
Sunset Crater is an extinct volcano a few miles from Wupatki .
http://www.nps.gov/sucr/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sunset+crater&qpvt=sunset+crater&FORM=IGRE&adlt=strict
If you want to try and make your own Native American style jewelry, Thunderbird Supply has everything you need, they sell to the public and will answer any questions you have .
They have a store in the Flagstaff, AZ area, not far from Wupatki and Sunset Crater .
http://www.thunderbirdsupply.com/flagstaff.aspx
Meteor Crater is about 30 miles east of Flagstaff, AZ.
http://www.meteorcrater.com/
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=meteor+crater&qpvt=meteor+crater&FORM=IGRE
Petrified Forest and the Painted Desert parks are about 100 miles east of Flagstaff, AZ.
http://www.nps.gov/pefo/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=petrified+forest&qpvt=petrified+forest&FORM=IGRE
Canyon De Chelly (pronounced duh-shay) is in northeastern Arizona, on the Navajo /Hopi reservations .
http://www.nps.gov/cach/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=canyon+de+chelly&qpvt=canyon+de+chelly&FORM=IGRE
Monument Valley is in northern Arizona on the border with Utah on the Navajo reservation .
A lot of western movies were filmed here in the '40's and '50's .
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=monument+valley&qpvt=monument+valley&FORM=IGRE
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I'll start a new post, going east from Phoenix, on US Route 60 .
About 130 miles east of Phoenix, you'll be going by one of our members fastcataz hometown Globe, AZ, is the Salt River Canyon .
Fastcat, may be able to provide a bit more info, as this is in his 'backyard' .
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=salt+river+canyon&qpvt=salt+river+canyon&FORM=IGRE#x0y0
Continuing east on US 60 about another 130 miles you will get to the Springerville/Eager, Az. area US 180/191 which heads south from here about 20 miles west of the Arizona/ New Mexico state borders .
US 180 splits and goes east into New Mexico, US 191 continues south and turns into one of the best/challenging/dangerous motorcycle roads around .
Don't drive it at night or in inclement weather conditions !!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.motorcycleroads.us/roads/az_us191.html
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Going south from Phoenix .
About 60 miles southeast of Phoenix is Casa Grande Ruins .
http://www.nps.gov/cagr/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=casa+grande+ruins&qpvt=casa+grande+ruins&FORM=IGRE
About 100 miles southwest of Phoenix, about 30 miles west of Gila Bend is Painted Rock park .
Only about 2 acres in size, but you will experience what the 'middle of nowhere' is !!!!
http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/prog/recreation/camping/dev_camps/painted_rock.html
Only the first two or three rows of pictures are from the park in Arizona .
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=painted+rock+park&qpvt=painted+rock+park&FORM=IGRE
Picacho Peak park is about 80 miles south of Phoenix, it's an extinct volcano and it's known for Mexican poppies, when we have a wet winter, so far, this year, it's been quite dry so far, so the poppies won't be at their best .
Also known for the only Civil War battle fought in Arizona .
http://azstateparks.com/Parks/PIPE/index.html
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=picacho+peak&qpvt=picacho+peak&FORM=IGRE
In the Tucson area about 130 miles south of Phoenix, the Saguaro National Monument has two locations, the first is about 20 miles or so southwest of Tucson, it's the largest, there is another park southeast of Tucson, not quite as large .
http://www.nps.gov/sagu/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=saguaro++national+monument&qpvt=saguaro++national+monument&FORM=IGRE
Right next to the west Saguaro Monument park, is Old Tucson, an old west type town, where a lot of western type movies were filmed and yes, it is your typical 'tourist type' venue .
http://www.oldtucson.com/
20 miles southwest of the western Saguaro Park, is Kitt Peak Obsevratory, great 12 mile drive up the mountain, about a 5,000 foot increase in elevation .
http://www.noao.edu/kpno/
http://www.noao.edu/outreach/kpoutreach.html
About 130 miles east/southeast of Tucson is Chiracahua ( pronounced cheer-ah-cow-ah) National Monument another extinct volcanic area .
http://www.nps.gov/chir/index.htm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=chiracahua+monument+pictures&qpvt=chiracahua+monument+pictures&FORM=IGRE
In the general area of the Chiracahua Monument, is the site where Geronimo surrendered to the US military .
http://abell.as.arizona.edu/~hill/4x4/skeleton/skeleton.html
http://www.desertusa.com/ind1/geronimo.html
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I'll stop now, I'm 'Arizona-ed out" right now !!!
Any questions ????
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May have to extend my tour plans,......some intresting stuff there
Lou
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Thanks Bob_Roller,
There's a lot to absorb. Any questions and I'll send them your way.
Much thanks.
:^)
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This hand carving looks like an early attempt to design a motorcycle !!!
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=casa+grande+ruins&view=detail&id=7B7F10AA48E038F2503A4D56759A5576EB9830C6&first=211&FORM=IDFRIR
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Bob's got it covered!
I was born and raised in Flagstaff. LOTS of Native American culture there and north into "The Res" (Reservations) and Grand Canyon. I'm now in Tucson and love the culture here, too. If you come through Flagstaff, make sure to head down 89A into Sedona. One of the best scenic drives in the state. From there you can hit Cottonwood and Jerome (old mining town turned artist colony).
Avoid Phoenix unless you like big, smoggy cities that try to be Los Angeles. The ONLY exception is if you're visiting Bob. ;)
Look me up if/when you come through Tucson. Love to meet you in person!
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My only suggestion to you would be not to sing the "La la" part out loud in mixed company. You get my drift? :-[
A Horse With No Name
http://www.accessbackstage.com/america/song/song005.htm
On the first part of the journey
I was looking at all the life
There were plants and birds and rocks and things
There was sand and hills and rings
The first thing I met was a fly with a buzz
And the sky with no clouds
The heat was hot and the ground was dry
But the air was full of sound
I've been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain
La, la ...
After two days in the desert sun
My skin began to turn red
After three days in the desert fun
I was looking at a river bed
And the story it told of a river that flowed
Made me sad to think it was dead
You see I've been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain
La, la ...
After nine days I let the horse run free
'Cause the desert had turned to sea
There were plants and birds and rocks and things
there was sand and hills and rings
The ocean is a desert with it's life underground
And a perfect disguise above
Under the cities lies a heart made of ground
But the humans will give no love
You see I've been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain
La, la ...