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Title: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Danie on April 20, 2009, 01:20:25 PM
On Wednesday this week millions of South African citizens will go to the polls. According to all indications, the masses will ensure that the ruling ANC goverment will won the election by a huge majority.

During the past two weeks our National Prosecution Authority has caved in to enourmous pressure by the ruling ANC, and all charges of  corruption, fraud, money laundry, and racketeering against the man who will become our next President, has been dropped.

Please pray for this beloved country. Africa cannot afford another failure.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1165473/He-wives-faced-783-corruption-charges-PETER-HITCHENS-South-Africas-president.html

Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Justin B. on April 20, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
I feel your pain.  Our new pres. has deemed it necessary to populate his new cabinet with tax-cheats and other shady characters...
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Bob_Roller on April 20, 2009, 09:10:02 PM
It is my belief, that no country is 'immune' to corruption in government from the bottom right up to the top.

I just wonder what is going to happen, if and or when the people get fed up, and take matters into their own hands, and violence erupts, the likes of which have rarely been seen in modern times !!

I don't know how many people know this fact, but ammunition manufacturers in the US can't keep up with the demand for ammunition, and this is not just for 'assault type' weapons, it's across all types and calibers of weapons.

Looks like it's time to get a copy of 'The Anarchist's Cookbook" .
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Justin B. on April 21, 2009, 12:45:12 AM
Bob,

I think the run on ammo has a lot to do with having Obama and a democrat majority in both houses.  Everybody is paranoid about what kind of 2d amendment attacks will be coming down the pike.  Obama is a known anti-gunner as are most of the senior democratic leadership.
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: lairhead on April 21, 2009, 09:02:14 AM
I cant relate the stress and anguish the new President of South africa is going to cause South Africa and the rest of Africa the man was accused of corruption and of rape what next for a man with only Standard 3
I JUST HOPE AND PRAY for a miracle ,that he loses the election cant stand the thought of Pres Zuma
well that is my rant for today
ride safe
Brendan
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Ed Miller on April 21, 2009, 12:21:54 PM
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Looks like it's time to get a copy of 'The Anarchist's Cookbook" .

I've got that.  It's not as useful as you might think; I'm sure the internet has made it obsolete.  But it's cool to have.

Why is that guy (and the ANC) so popular?  Here we at least trade one set of crooks for a different set every once in a while.
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Danie on April 22, 2009, 07:34:09 AM
Ed, regarding your question about Zuma and the ANC's popularity - I beleive the answer is very complex, and various factors  do have an influence in this regard.

In the first place, our former Presisident (Thabo Mbeki) became extremely unpopular within his own party, due to his cloistered and exclusive style of leadership. Mbeki surrounded himself with a small (and often incompetent) clique of allies. Mbeki also thrashed Zuma as Vice President of our country , but has eventually been fired as president of the ANC at a political rout by his own "comrades" - who became sick and tired of his leadership. At this rout Zuma came to power, due to the support of groups like the South African Communist Party, and  restless Labour Unions.

As far as Zuma is concerned - despite his lack of proper education - he only passed Standard 3 (Grade 5 at junior school), he is extremely well spoken, and extremely popular amoungs the uneducated poor of the poor.

Ethnicity is also still very alive and well in our country. Zuma will be the fist Zulu President of our county, and this will play a major role amoungst our Zulu population.

As far as the ANC as political party is concerned - during political rallies - which take place quite often, they never fail to remind the masses about their own role against Apartheid - and regarding the ANC's own failures, the masses are very forgiving.

During his election campaign Zuma has also made extraordinary promises to the uneducated masses - which "favours" him as well.  

Well for what it's worth, my wife and myself have casted our votes early this morning. The importance of this election has been very clear - we were facing an extraordinary long que when arriving at our local polling station.

Only time will tell, and hopefully the restless will not become more restless after the election.

May God save South Africa

Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Justin B. on April 22, 2009, 10:56:45 AM
I wish you luck and hopefully a miracle will happen.
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: steve_wicks on April 27, 2009, 12:19:47 PM
Well, I'm happy the ANC did not get a 2/3rd majority this time because, I, like many others, do not trust a man who chants "bring me my machine gun" at every opportunity and has fathered no less than 18 children.


Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Justin B. on April 27, 2009, 12:52:10 PM
That is good news.  Did the rest of the election go badly or was it "survivable" in general?
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Danie on April 27, 2009, 02:23:04 PM
Apart from the fact that 59 election officials from different areas who have been fired due to election fraud, and a shortage of ballot papers at different polling stations, the election was pieceful, and I would say well organised in general.

The ANC has won the election with a huge majority of 65.9 % of all votes, while the official opposition (Democratic Allience) came second with 16.66%. The political patry which came third, only got 7.42% of all votes.

Today is a public holiday (Freedom Day) locally, and I have just watched our National news on Tv. It worries me to see that the masses who elected their leaders of choice not even a week ago, seems to be very restless already. While the current interim President tried to adress his speach to the very people who brought them to power, the restless masses hardly gave him a chance to speak.

In other parts of our country, roads have been blocked today, and tyres have been burned - in protest of poor service delivery by..........well, goverment officials who represent the political party who has won the election less than a week ago..........



Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: trolle on April 29, 2009, 06:19:14 AM
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a man who chants "bring me my machine gun" at every opportunity and has fathered no less than 18 children.
 
Is it the machine gun or the children that worries you?

greetings from a sunny, not damp nor foggy north with excellent driving conditions
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Danie on May 01, 2009, 02:38:42 AM
I must admit Steve, apart from a father who likes to sing songs like "Bring me my machine gun" in public, I am also concerned about the possibility of 18 children who might see their father as a roll model, and start singing that song as well.

The 18 children also probably know about their roll model's explanation in court that while being fully aware of a sleeping partner's HIV -positive status - he did not take any precaution........and afterwards, just took a shower "to minimise the risk of contracting the diseace"

Hopefully the 18 children will not follow their father's footsteps........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4879822.stm

PS: On a more positive note - while our new Predident do have four wives at the moment, during the rape court trial he indicated that he was actually planning to get married to the HIV positive woman who accused him of rape as well.

With so many women in his life - surely he must be a man of many talents ?

Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: k_enn on May 01, 2009, 10:26:16 AM
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<snip>With so many women in his life - surely he must be a man of many talents ?

Either that, or he comes with a large endowment.

k_enn
Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Danie on June 16, 2009, 01:18:10 PM
"Cry our beloved country"

While reading another shocking report about our scale of goverment official mismanagement, corruption, and flagrant abuse of public money, today  I could not help thinking about the above well known words by Warren S. Wright, as well as the novel "Cry the beloved country" by the author Alan Paton :

http://blogs.thetimes.co.za/hartley/2009/06/14/auditor-generals-report-into-corruption-in-public-service-full-text/


Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: Danie on July 26, 2009, 03:40:56 AM
Well, the honeymoon after our election seems to be over, and the unrealistic election promises started to backfire, just three months after the election.

During the past week violent protest against poor service delivery, incompetence, and corruption finally erupted countrywide  - and dark clouds are gathering on the horizon:


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1912479,00.html


Title: Re: Watershed election - 22 April 2009
Post by: montmil on July 26, 2009, 06:27:05 AM
Politicos around the world seem to habitually make unreasonable, impractical and impossible promises while banking on the voter's short-term memory to keep them in power. We appear to be nurturing that very same issue right here in Amerika. I'd ask for God's help but He's been evicted from our halls of justice and schools.   Monte