The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
General Category => General Announcements => Topic started by: Bob_Roller on September 04, 2013, 03:32:10 PM
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I 'cull' the herd here of inactive members .
Here's the method I use to determine the inactivity of a member on this site .
180 days from when you open your account / profile here, if you havn't made a posting, you're deleted .
If you have made 1-5 postings, if you let 600 days go by without logging in, you're deleted .
6 or more postings, if you let 730 days go by with logging in, you're deleted .
When I started doing this about 15 months ago, I sent out hundreds of emails notifying members that they wouild be deleted if they didn't log in within 30 days .
A fair amount of the emails came back as undeliverable, not one response from any member and only one member made a posting to keep their profile / account active .
I don't send out any emails anymore .
So there is the method I use .
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Go for it.
I'm always getting automated emails from the Kaw. 250 Ninja (?) forum that I signed up for while investigating them.
I would rather they delete me from their roster.
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I've been away for a while after IT issues, but hopefully that's all behind me now!
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Culling makes for a healthy nerd herd. D2
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Culling makes for a healthy nerd herd. D2
That's pretty funny, Dave.
I recall attending a property owners meeting some years ago where we were discussing the over-abundant population of deer in our area. The lack of adequate forage was creating health problems among the deer. The decision to hire a hunter to harvest several deer to thin the herd was made and a few additional questions from people were answered.
City Lady: "Excuse me, but does harvest mean kill?"
Moderator: "Yes ma'am, it does."
City lady: "OMG! Are you going to kill the Bambies?"
True story. The laughter was so loud I never did hear any other replies.
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Please don't eat me. I don't want to lose my privileges before i had a chance to use them.
ps: looking for clean r65 in the northeast.
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oucho -
There are a few up this way for sale, here is one
http://nh.craigslist.org/mcy/4106976356.html
Also, though I'm sorta trying to get him to change his mind about selling it, a member here "williamemack" is thinking of selling his - you might send him a pm or email.
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What I do find odd about this forum is that it's one of the very few that allows you to delete yourself as a user..
A feature more forums should have..
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thanks nhmaf. I might not be realistic, but I think that's about 1k off. I so love a black bike. Blue is cool too. And Red works.
I miss my 1983 r65. I bought a new bike that is comparable with our times. It handles the modern highways, but I don't have the same affection for it as I did with the r65. I can't imagine I will like it nearly as much when it become 30 years old.
Please don't delete me.
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Just make sure you post something every few months and then Bob "The Hammer" Roller will leave ya alone...
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I think 'Guillotine Bob' would be a more threatening name . :o
May get more respect with that username !!!!! ;D
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I think both work, as they sound like a metal worker/fabricator. Shear, Hammer, and Roll...
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How about Bob "Steam" Roller?
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How about Bob "Steam" Roller?
That'll work!
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Good names! Keep me alive even though it's been awhile. Right now Derek and I have a sewer blockage here at home and we're trying to keep our heads above water so to speak or at least stay outta ^&%t here so I don't have time to be online too much. Miss my buds!!
Cheers,
Stinky
Going to try trenchless pipe repair technology. My beautiful garden pond is dead-in-line with the sewer pipes running 70 feet out the back of the house!!!
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Sue, you will never be deleted , at least by me anyway !!!
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Gee thanks Bob. Someday I should try to get down your way...especially in winter!!
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Don't go fishin' in dat pond! ::)
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Perfect weather this time of year for riding overnight lows 50-55 F 10-13 C highs 80-90 F 27-32 C.
Was working on the oilhead today and it got to 97 F 36C in the garage by 4 PM, south facing garage low sun angle this itme of year, plenty of heat still .
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[size=12]Bob,
I've been off the net much too long—several months now. Before I stopped logging in, I had gotten into the habit of "checking news & gossip" without taking time to add my own $0.02 worth.
Today I signed in to check headlines, and I noticed this posting. So, I checked my account outbox and found, to my horror. that my last posting appears to have been somewhat > 730 days ago.
Thank you for not being obsessive about purging a member immediately upon exceeding the inactivity limit. In the future, I hope I can keep better track of the extent of my inactivity.
John[/size]
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The 730 days, has nothing to do with postings, it's just logging on to this site .
If you log on and just want to ' lurk ', that's fine with me .
It's 730 days of not logging in to this site, if you have made at least 6 postings .
You don't have access to this information, but in ' admin ' mode you can view this very easily .
There are members here that havn't made a posting in years, but they log on regularly .
When I was offered an admin position and took it coming up on three years ago, I looked at the membership ranks and found that we had about 1400 members .
But looking at the activity of the members, some had not been online here or made postings in 5 years .
I ' culled the herd ' down to 6-700 members with the method I used in the original posting of this thread .
The moderator of this site had no problem with the method I use, as I went to him first with it before I deleted anyone .
The only comment he made was, that if anyone complains about being deleted, he'll direct them to me to take the ' heat ' for it . ;D
So far I havn't heard of anyone doing so .
The only member that came back after being deleted, was AJB, he said he had internet / computer issues for an extended period of time and was deleted after not making any postings for 180 days after creating an ' account ', or profile on this site .
After doing this for awhile and seeing the ' trends ', if a member doesn't log in for a year, it's very rare, they come back before the time frame that I have set is met .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUSNtPocqs
(and no, it is not about mass killings)
edit: fixed link
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One of my favorite quotes from Cheers.
Cliff: Well ya see, Norm, it's like this. A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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I support Bob in his "culling" activities...
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Thank you for your input, nothing.
Was that your previous handle, as well?
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Was that your previous handle, as well?
Yes. Luckily nobody wanted it in the meantime and I was able to regain my username, but as it's a new account it isn't linked to my previous posting history.
I don't know what could be done about that. :(
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Members are only deleted after two years of not logging in here .
A vast majority of these members had 20 or fewer postings, not very active members when they were here .
People move on in life and this forum is forgotten, I've been a member here since 2000 and I've seen a couple thousand members ' pass ' through here in 14 years .
You've got the ' core ' of members that make the forum work and then a larger majority are just passing through here, make a few postings and then disappear .
I've talked to moderators on other motorcycle forums and other subject forums as well, they all agree, that if a member doesn't come back for 2 years, they rarely if ever return .
Some of these sites even delete members after a year of inactivity .
If this site had a provision for an inactive file for members, I would put members in there .
It's common for this site to slow down in the winter months, when the riding season begins again in the Northern hemisphere, the activity picks up here as well, it's seasonal, has been for the 14 years I've been here .
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'Why is the deletion necessary though? What benefit does it serve?'
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I would suspect (waiting to be told this is not the case... ::)) that we all take up space on the site, hence the various topics over the years re posting large images (of which I admit to being guilty :-[) and surely each users occupies space and therefore cost.
It would seem reasonable that a member can visit and not post for some time, yet somebody who joins (takes up space) and then never visits or posts (or very infrequently) is taking both space and time (for admin who manage the site on behalf of the members) I spend a lot of time visiting and reading to learn, yet I don't post as often as I visit.
The rules of the site seem very reasonable bearing in mind the cost in time for the admin/mods plus the enormous amount of free knowledge on this site. :).
I think I made sense there... :-?
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Perfect sense.
As someone who manages a network of over 500 computers I have a lot of sympathy for concerns about large images resulting in excessive storage requirements. Consider that we are fortunate to still be able to post images. Most of the other airhead forums have given up the unequal struggle and will only accept links to photo's stored elsewhere.
All I can say is it's a good job I'm not a moderator or some of the large images would be deleted !
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Unfortunately, unless one is a registered member (and logged in) on R65.org, one cannot see the images and URL links.
I'm beginning to see a flaw in this plan.
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It's a very simple concept, if you don't log into this site for years, you have lost interest in the site, clear and simple, at least to me it is .
Moderator of the site had no problems with this method, as I stated earlier, I went to him before I did anything to delete members .
I support Bob in his "culling" activities...
You can keep adding posts to this thread, about your displeasure, but it won't change anything, unless the moderator of this site directs me to do so .
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Perhaps the mods could add a disclaimer during the signup process about the deletion policy. That way everybody should know what's expected to stay a member.
Nothing, while it might be an annoyance to go through your previous posts, can you not use the search feature? Unless you are trying to dig up progress logs I don't see how it could be much of a problem for you, and as you've said, your posts are available to other members. If you are worried about being redundant with a new post, I imagine you'd use the search feature anyways.
I understand the mods desire to keep the member list down to "Active" members. It can help with projecting site growth and storage needs, and it's also nice to know how the site is doing in general with regards to member activity.
P.S. I think one of the greatest strengths of this forum is that it is a fairly small and tight knit group. I think several members here would consider it a point of pride that we can have such a productive forum with under 500 active members.
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For your viewing pleasure and entertainment, there are two notices in the Important Topics section just above this section .
They clearly state the conditions of which you will be deleted, they have been there for about 7 years .
Just wanted to see if anyone here had read them !!!
Obviously not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll ask Justin, the site moderator, put the topic in capital letters and post this in all sections of this site, so no one can claim they didn't see them, ever again .
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1. You can't send personal messages until you have made one post. Again, this is an anti-spammer protection mechanism to keep spammers from bombarding the membership with PMs in the unlikely instance that they might actually be able to get in. Just attempting to send a PM over and over and over will not "fix" this, the "fix" is to make a post.
2. Once you have been registered your account will be subject to deletion if you have not made any posts AND have not logged in to the site for over 180 days. If you have made posts to the forum AND have not logged in for 365 days or longer your account may be deleted.
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I personally feel, that this subject is a closed matter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To answer the question as to what is accomplished by "whacking" inactive users the primary reason I did it was to keep our membership tally at a more realistic level. Unlike other forums which have huge membership numbers (and maybe only 10% of them are around anymore) you can look at our numbers and realize that the number represents active real people that like the "little cow".
I was somewhat lax in keeping things pruned down and I appreciate Bob's efforts regarding this. I will see if there is a way where a user can be re-linked to his old posts.
Geeze , I see now that boxerworks now requires you to be registered just to look?
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I've conversed with moderators at other sites over the last 2 years or so, since I was offered a moderator here and it seems to be common no matter what type of forum there is .
Hundreds, Thousands or tens of thousands of members, but only a ' core ' of 10-15% of the members keeping the site going .
The rest just pass through .
Of the current members we have, 50% have not been online here in over a year, let alone make a posting, not exactly what you would consider ' active ' membership in my view .
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It could also be considered as a matter of trying to maintain site security by deactivating accounts that have seen no login activity for a year or longer. Having a number of already approved accounts in the system that are not actively used by the originators (and may be totally forgotten by them) leaves those accounts as potential inroads for hackers/spammers.
With so much stuff people store on their smart phones these days, having your smart phone stolen could provide the wrong person with a wealth of info and account logins to banks, credit unions, and social-media web accounts.
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I think I have Mr. Nothing mostly back. I don't know if I have his post count 100% correct but he should be able to find his stuff.
Moral of the story: Log in every once-in-a-while and this won't happen.
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It could also be considered as a matter of trying to maintain site security by deactivating accounts that have seen no login activity for a year or longer. Having a number of already approved accounts in the system that are not actively used by the originators (and may be totally forgotten by them) leaves those accounts as potential inroads for hackers/spammers.
With so much stuff people store on their smart phones these days, having your smart phone stolen could provide the wrong person with a wealth of info and account logins to banks, credit unions, and social-media web accounts.
Good point, Mike. I do vaguely remember this "weeding out" being another tool to keep from being taken over by spammers like the previous forum...
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I will send out an email to all members every three months, with the conditions for continued membership at R65.org .
But there are members that don't have an email contact in their profile, they will not recieve any of the notifications .
I refuse to waste my time and effort in attempting to contact these members, I did this two years ago, never again .
So, I'm sure there will be other members that will be unhappy if they are deleted for inactivity in this scenario .
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Bob,
That is way above and beyond!
Thanks...
Justin B.
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Thanks for the good work.
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It's not gonna be me deleted!
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Me either!! Just that every once in awhile some other things seem to creep in a take one's time on the computer. And I do feel somewhat guilty if I am on the computer too much.....somethin' 'bout exercise and gettin' old and creaky.