The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
General Category => General Announcements => Topic started by: luxlogs on November 07, 2010, 12:09:07 AM
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Hey Guys;
Thanks for all the info in sorting out my new 82 R65LS 34K miles. It basically sat for five years after the original owner bought an 2005 R1150. Just run occasionally to keep the seals moist, or so he says. Not in bad shape really, actually it’s in quite good shape except for a tear on the seat and UV fading of the kill switch, etc. Droop Snoot is intact (no $$$ in there) and all the lights and gauges work, Original Owner also still had the Manual, Clymer’s, Brochures, and Even The Original Bill of Sale. He did all his own maintance and had a log book listing every oil change etc. Hmmmm, Bet it needs clutch work.
Someone on this site likened this bike to a low flying airplane, I agree in spades. Probably why I, being a pilot was attracted to this bike despite it’s less than spectacular lump. At 50 HP it’s on par with most HD’s but easily 250 lbs lighter. Not to mention the center of gravity. The COG on my 69 XLCH was about seat height.
After adding used and abused crash bars from Duncan’s, PIAA HID’s off EvilBay and .30 cal ammo boxes as panniers. It really started looking like an WWII fighter, so it was only right to adorn the forks with a “REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT” Streamer.
Chapter 3 of Clymer’s is all about maintance, so that’s a good place to start and to end when the jobs get beyond my abilities or knowledge. After changing all fluids filters, cleaning and greasing, upon riding I overshot the entrance of my neighborhood when I never did before. Brake Fade, well the fluid looks like red wine so lets bleed that sucker. Probably and hour job, (Famous Last Words). So after 4 days and two broken vac pumps I was in the yellow pages looking for a very local motorcycle shop. Local was of importance due to having to get it there with only a rear drum brake. Not difficult if you concentrate. Lose concentration and it gets interesting when I. Newton decides to take over. I have a friend with a HD Chopper without a front brake. At lights I have to hold his bike with my front wheel to his rear to keep him from rolling. Not Smart, right up there with his riding apparel, dew rag and shorts. It’s OK though, his pipes are real LOUD. Good thing my tach works or else I would never know if my sewing machine was even running.
Off to the bike shop, Motorcycle Medic in Tinley Park, IL. Ron seems to know what he’s talking about and there are a few Ducati, and a Norton hanging out with all the Asian Invasion Bikes so I feel pretty good about leaving my bike there though I did have to leave my Clymer’s since Ron only had the K bike book. His library was extensive including assorted quads and watercraft but no R book. He does have some auto experience so the clutch shouldn’t be that much of a mystery to him. He’s also the type of guy who can fabricates his own specialty tools and parts if need be. A real wrench, not some glorified parts changer with all kinds of stripes on his sleeve but no real mech aptitude.
So since he had to tear apart the front end to get at the brake lines I told Ron to rebuild the forks and check the wheel bearing and steering bearings. It was apart already Right? So at that point why not grease the swing arm, rear bearings and while you is at it grease the clutch spline. I probably could do it myself but I really don’t want to especially after blowing something as easy as bleeding brakes. Besides I left him with the book, what could go wrong?
Ron calls today and asks me to stop by for an update. Brakes are done, forks are done, Swing arm off along with carbs. Carbs look like old spar varnish cans, Think I need a rebuild kit, no make that two. Ron was surprised it ran at all let alone ran pretty good. I wasn’t, I’m used to Teutonic Engineering. Nothing else even comes close. Ask any WWII Tank Jockey about the Tiger. Swing arm and splines look real good under the old grease, hey at least there’s grease, Right? Bearings will be in next week. Speedo and clutch cable would also be a good idea me thinks. So much for Chapter 3. Oh well nothing major discovered, bike mostly needed a thorough cleaning and adjustment. Thank God for the little problems.
Pics to be posted when I get it back.
Almost forgot my name is Niel and I’m located along Old Route 66 in Joliet IL about ½ mile from the Chicagoland Speedway and Route 66 Dragstrip. Drop by, Washrooms clean and the Coffee Pot is always on.
Three Boxers currently in stable.
1982 BMW R65LS 648cc 2 cyl boxer
1974 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 ltr 6 cyl boxer
2010 Subaru Impreza Outback 2.5 ltr 4 cyl boxer (wife’s car)
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Welcome aboard, Niel. Shoot... You're missing all the fun by permitting someone else to pull maintenance duty on the LS.
Ask your mechanic about the rear wheel bearing preload requirements, which end of the cable to begin clutch adjustments, rear wheel offset tolerances and swingarm displacement, and... oh well. Something to keep you awake at night. :D
Sitting for so long, I'd suggest a very close inspection of the fuel tank interior. And disassemble the Bings one at a time so you'll have a reference when the inevitable questions arise. Several of the Binger bits are "handed".
Enjoy the LS when he comes home. Remember, if no photo, the bike does not exist!
Monte
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Welcome Neil .
Once you get the few problems sorted out you'll have a great ride .
I'm familiar with your area, I attended to college in Lockport, Lewis University, aviation department, got my my A&P license there in 1976 .
I'm originally from the southwestern suburbs of Chicago, Burbank, left that area in June, 1993, for the southwestern deserts, no winter and ride all year long .
You probably fly out of the New Lennox-Howell airport .
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Ask your mechanic about the rear wheel bearing preload requirements, which end of the cable to begin clutch adjustments, rear wheel offset tolerances and swingarm displacement, and... oh well. Something to keep you awake at night. :D
All that was keeping me up at night, so thats why I seeked out Professional help. I like to be able to at least get the bike to the shop under it's own power. Looks Better that way.
Sitting for so long, I'd suggest a very close inspection of the fuel tank interior.
That was done already, got some milk coating or something like that what ever that is.
And disassemble the Bings one at a time so you'll have a reference when the inevitable questions arise.
I pulled the bowl off the left Bing after it pissed gas all over my shoe. Looks like Crap.
Several of the Binger bits are "handed".
"handed" I don't understand. Please explain.
Enjoy the LS when he comes home. Remember, if no photo, the bike does not exist!
We will try, hope it's easier than the avaitar pic, as you see I don't have one yet.
Thanks
Niel
Monte
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I'm familiar with your area, I attended to college in Lockport, Lewis University, aviation department, got my my A&P license there in 1976 .
I currently rent aeroplanes from Lewis. Pretty beatup rental fleet, probably why I don't fly so much.
You probably fly out of the New Lennox-Howell airport .
NL Howell is no more just like most of the FBO's around here. Closed to make room for more McMansions.
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'Handed' is most likely referring to there are parts that are for the left or right carb, not interchangeable .
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Hi Neil welcome.... i had a mare bleeding my brakes found there was a vacuum leak on the splitter but ok under pressure dooh was a bitch to find. MMMMM route 66 something to put on my to do list but when??? piccys please
Lou
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Ask your mechanic about the rear wheel bearing preload requirements, which end of the cable to begin clutch adjustments, rear wheel offset tolerances and swingarm displacement, and... oh well. Something to keep you awake at night. :D
Asked and satisfied with answers. Bing parts seperated and marked, Swingarm offset (whatever that is) is easy on a BMW compared to a Ducati. Good answer, being one that I could comprehend. Unfortunatly since I don't know what end to adjust the clutch from I didn't bring it up. Thanks for the tips. Waiting on parts.
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OK finally got the bike back but then my 10 yr old Sony Camera Crapped Out. Remember the one with the 3.5 disk for a memory? Yea I know, what did I expect? I think I paid $500 for it way back when. That’s $50 bucks a year, probably what they cost now new at the Big Box. So the pic is an old one from when I first got it, without any upgrades or farkles.
Only rode about 10 miles since service, that was just getting it home in about 20 degree temps. But that 10 miles was a joy in improved acceleration handling and shifting. That false neutral between 2nd and 3rd is long gone.
Work Preformed by Motorcycle Medic
Front Brakes
Rear Brakes
Clutch spline
Ft and Rear Wheel Bearings
Steering Bearings
Swingarm Bearings
Clean Carbs
Timeing
Torque Heads
Speedo Cable
Progressive Springs Front and Rear
Seals n Oil Front Forks
Few cosmetic issues to take care of before Spring and any Ebay parts that get my attention.
Would like to find a front fork brace that fits a R65. Only ones I found were for any R except R65’s. That and a bolt on steering stabilizer would be a nice addition.
Speed in a straight line doesn’t interest me. It’s being quick in the twisties that matters. Also helps keep one outa jail.
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20 degrees? I'd be calling old Bengt Phorqs to help me load my bike on his trailer. Brrrrr...
I would strongly encourage you to delete the fork brace idea. The R65 has no need as the top triple clamp is a solid, machined aluminum casting; not like the oft seen steel plate -think flexy- on some other BMW marks. Also, fork stiction can become a common problem when braces are added to the R65.
Also, for future maintenance chores, try to avoid doing any regular head torquing. The bolts can easily strip out the aluminum crankcase's threads. Big $$$.
So, Niel... about that avatar pic? ;D
Monte
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20 degrees? I'd be calling old Bengt Phorqs to help me load my bike on his trailer. Brrrrr...
Thats a warm day around here lately.
I would strongly encourage you to delete the fork brace idea. The R65 has no need as the top triple clamp is a solid, machined aluminum casting; not like the oft seen steel plate -think flexy- on some other BMW marks. Also, fork stiction can become a common problem when braces are added to the R65.
Good to know, will heed your learned advise. Thank You
Also, for future maintenance chores, try to avoid doing any regular head torquing. The bolts can easily strip out the aluminum crankcase's threads. Big $$$.
Once again Good advise. I only did it this time cause it was never done before and I had a Professional Wrench to do it. Probably do it again in 30K miles.
So, Niel... about that avatar pic? ;D
OK OK took me about 20 minutes to figure out how. Found something close to my heart to use that expresses my personality.
Monte