The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
General Category => General Announcements => Topic started by: Nice_One_Son on August 18, 2009, 01:24:17 AM
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Hello everybody,
Just joined and looking for advice & info.
I have come across an R65 which the owner is considering selling.
It's an 81 and been in dry storage since 2000 (it last ran then too). I know the owner (he also has a Greeves 250 road bike).
The bike will have been well looked after whilst running, but has been left for 9 years now, the owner has been out of the country and has now returned and needs to clear the space.
Any advice on what I should look out for and be aware of?
Thanks :-?
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My first concern would be the condition of the cylinders, valves, piston rings and all bearings after such an extended idle period.
Have you seen, heard or attempted to start the bike? Could be one of those classic barn finds the rest of us usually miss.
Photos? Where are you located? Environmental issues and old bikes...
And welcome to our sandbox! All things R65.
Monte
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Hello and welcome!
You have come to the right place for help with an r65.
I'm new too and these nice folks have walked me though every stage of my bikes resurrection and with good humor too.
I have a 1983 R65 and it sat for a long long time before the guy I got it from had it.
The clutch was locked up on the spline he told me ......he just started pushing it in gear and after a few minutes it let out a loud "CLUNK" and the clutch broke free.
he got it to start.... hopped on it and rode it for 10 years and 15000 miles like that with out doing anything else except fluids.
When I got it the abuse was evident so with the help of the nuts here I've been able to correct most of what's wrong with out too much expense.
I'm no seasoned mechanic but a lot of the folks here are and they are always willing to help.
Good luck!
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welcome mate :)....sounds to me you have found yourself a nice project 8-)...she probaly needs a decent overhaul, engine, carbies, brakes, drivetrain. With the bike just sitting there for soooo long i'll be reluctant to try to start it....Post some pics when you can!!! :)
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Thanks to all those who have responded, I hope that many more do as I am going to need some help I think!
Without boring you too much, I have known the owner for about 7 years and only found out on Saturday that he had the 65 & the Greeves. He has just returned from a 5 year project in Norway and wants to have a clear out.
I have yet to see the bike, but a pal has who is a m/cycle mechanic and he says it looks very well considering it has not been used for a long time.
I have to be honest and admit that I was in the market for a Suzuki GT 750 and had never considered a beemer as they were always out of my price bracket!
Anyway from all accounts this is a straight bike with low mileage and has been looked after up until 2000.
I am looking for a project to do with my son who has just turned 15 and is bike mad.
I will post some pics when I have them.
BTW, I am based in the UK.
Thanks
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Welcome aboard N O S, where on planet earth do you call home ?
Environmental conditions may have a large impact on the bike, even though it was in dry storage, if you reside in a damp, or coastal area .
Tires and tubes require replacement, regardless on how good they appear .
Front brake system needs to gone through cleaned and inspected replace seals if necessary, and at the least, replace the three rubber brake lines .
Fuel tank, if isn't already empty, needs to be drained and cleaned .
As mentioned the carbs need to be completely gone through, and at the very least bit, all of the seals, gaskets and floats need replacing, along with a thorough cleaning .
Probably as good a time as any to remove the transmission, and clean and lube the transmission input splines as well as the mating splines on the clutch disc .
While you have the transmission off, go a little further, and replace the rear main seal, and the oil pump cover o-ring .
Good chance the final drive output shaft seal is going to be leaking, replace the rear brake cam o-rings .
Sounds a bit overwhelming doesn't it ?
Believe it or not, the work is not as intimidating as it sounds .
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Bob,
I live in the UK, in God's own country - Yorkshire!
The shed where the bike has been stored is dry, it is very dusty I am told. Great advice on re-commissioning, it sounds like a lot of work, but I am in no hurry, I have some good friends who are experienced in working on old bikes/cars and want to help see the old girl get back on the road.
I have to say, I am getting quite excited!
Thanks for your input.
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It's taken me 2.5 months of weekends (mostly) and I now have one sweet little bike!
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Bob,
I live in the UK, in God's own country - Yorkshire!
Isn't that where they film Last of the Summer Wine? I want to go there.
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Ahh, Last of the Summer Wine with Peter Callis? who was the voice of Wallace in the great Wallace and Gromit claymation short movies that won so many academy awards!
My one addition to that final drive advice is the easiest! Make sure the wee dome over the rear drive filler hole nut is lifted say 2/16ths or 3 mm above the 17mm nut so the rear drive can breathe! I just got this figured out myself thanks to a riding buddy taking close notice of why I had oil on my rear rim when going long and fast miles.
Also, my specialty...heee,heee....check for a notchy feeling when you turn the handlebars from side to side. Notchiness is felt when coming off the straight ahead position which is the direction the bike is headed normally ...except in Yorkshire where there may be too many curves for this to be a problem??!! The grease in the steering head bearings might well be hardened OR the bearings may be need replacement...the latter is not expected on a low mileage bike but the grease can be really hardened up! If you have trouble steering around a corner you will know that the steering head needs attention!
Have fun and have an Old Peculier for me please?!
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Morning Folks,
I really appreciate the advice!
As for Last of the Summer Wine, do you guys get that TV show in the states?
The show is filmed in the Holme Valley, mainly around the beautiful village of Holmfirth. I live in the next village which is on the edge of the Holme Valley.
The views are amazing, however the roads are very poor in general, so most people tend to ride over to the Peak District National Park which starts about 6 miles away and takes you through some of the best countryside in England, there the roads are great and I am sure the 65 will really show what she can do.
I don't like motorway riding in the UK, the average speed is up around the 80 mph mark and people are way too aggressive.
As for the beer, Old Peculiar is good, but the best is Timothy Taylors "landlord" ale, a north Yorkshire beer.
Thanks again and I will post some pics when I have them.
Cheers to all
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Morning Folks,
I really appreciate the advice!
As for Last of the Summer Wine, do you guys get that TV show in the states?
The show is filmed in the Holme Valley, mainly around the beautiful village of Holmfirth. I live in the next village which is on the edge of the Holme Valley.
The views are amazing, however the roads are very poor in general, so most people tend to ride over to the Peak District National Park which starts about 6 miles away and takes you through some of the best countryside in England, there the roads are great and I am sure the 65 will really show what she can do.
I don't like motorway riding in the UK, the average speed is up around the 80 mph mark and people are way too aggressive.
As for the beer, Old Peculiar is good, but the best is Timothy Taylors "landlord" ale, a north Yorkshire beer.
Thanks again and I will post some pics when I have them.
Cheers to all
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I watch it on Oregon Public Broadcasting on Saturday evenings at 6:30. My favorite show on TV. I'm working on being Wesley when I grow up.
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Back in the mid nineties, Derek and I were within a few miles of your home. Derek was looking up some old relatives in Golcar and we found some slightly younger relatives at Almondbury. We will take note of the best Timothy Taylor ale for our next visit which may never happen sadly.
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Bob,
I live in the UK, in God's own country - Yorkshire!
Nice one errr you didnt say how old you were!!!
my 1980 had been stood for about ten years didnt need to do much to the engine. didnt try to turn it stripped and honed the cylinders new rings reseated the valves then just service items the biggest problem i had was the carbs dont muck about get them ultrasonically cleaned i can put you onto a guy in Halifax who is good and cheap!!and avoid generic diaphragms pay the extra for Bing originals and avoid fuel additives like the plague hope to see you on the road sooner rather than later let me know when your rolling and we will meet up the sarsaparillas are on me.
Lou
If your in the Holmfirth area your near to motorworks (meltham) and Mollsprings ...andrew is a saint and will bend over backwards to help you if you get stuck.
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I watch it on Oregon Public Broadcasting on Saturday evenings at 6:30. My favorite show on TV. I'm working on being Wesley when I grow up.
do you get Hello Hello?? they even run that in germany now.....brilliant.,
Lou
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Hmm. Never heard of it, and Google wasn't much help for a change.
LTSW is coming on soon....
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Hmm. Never heard of it, and Google wasn't much help for a change.
LTSW is coming on soon....
Sorry my spelling its allo allo
http://www.alloallo.org.uk/
probebly on PBS or BBC through the website Ivette is sex on legs must be the french maids outfit and fishnet tights....works for me.
Go to the website click on the link"about the show"and enjoy.
Lou
Watch out for the "Fallen madonnna with the big boobies" its the bedrock of the show
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Hi All,
Just a quick update, viewing the bike later this week (taking the camera), agreed a ball park price of £500 ( :) subject to final view.
It's black, done around 30k miles and is an 81.
I hope to have some pics up to view.
Cheers
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Hope it all goes well for you mate....cant wait to see the pics :)
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Watch out for the "Fallen madonnna with the big boobies" its the bedrock of the show
"Listen carefully, I only say this once!"
greetings from a rainy north, lousy riding conditions
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I watch it on Oregon Public Broadcasting on Saturday evenings at 6:30. My favorite show on TV. I'm working on being Wesley when I grow up.
Hmm. Thought I knew most of the BritComs that nearly every PBS station in the country runs on Saturday nights, but this one's new to me. Sounds kinda fun—a kind of Hogan's Heroes with sex appeal. ;)
Wish the local PBS stations would subscribe to something new. We have two that run BritComs, and they seem to run precisely the same programing.
But what I'd really like to see (or hear, to be precise) is NPR running audio tapes of The Goon Show, followed closely by a repeat of the 1980s PBS classic, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. There's something about Trillian that works for me! ;)
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Hi Folks,
Just to let you know I finally agreed a price and have bought the bike for £600.
It comes with panniers as well.
I collect it this Sunday afternoon :D, so hope to have some pics up later that day.
I would really appreciate some help as to where to start, so will post a list of jobs required.
Thanks to all again.
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You and Lucky Lou need to get together. I am far south in Wiltshire.
Good Luck
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Thanks Steve,
I will do.
Garage is all prepared and waiting for the new arrival!
It looks like having had an interesting history having spent about 3 years in Norway. Problems I know about are surface rust on swing arm section, side covers missing and front brakes (twin disc) not working.
I am sure that there are many more just waiting to be found. Paint work on the tank looks really good, anyway, a few more days and we shall see!
Looking forward to sharing the journey with you more experienced guys and learning the joys and trials of owning, restoring and running a nearly 30 year old BMW!
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Thanks Steve,
I will do.
Garage is all prepared and waiting for the new arrival!
It looks like having had an interesting history having spent about 3 years in Norway. Problems I know about are surface rust on swing arm section, side covers missing and front brakes (twin disc) not working.
I am sure that there are many more just waiting to be found. Paint work on the tank looks really good, anyway, a few more days and we shall see!
Looking forward to sharing the journey with you more experienced guys and learning the joys and trials of owning, restoring and running a nearly 30 year old BMW!
The front pads will probebly have perished..mine had you need to strip them down completely and split the units you will probebly need to replace the piston seals to be 100% sure
Lou
ps pm me if you want me to bob over and cast an eye on it i havent much work on at the moment so dont need much of an excuse to dust the bike off for a ride.
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Lucky,
I will take you up on that offer!
How about early next week?
Let me know via here and I will pm you with address/phone details
Thanks
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Will do just pick a nice day. I work for myself so i can call anytime.
Lou
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Morning All,
Collected the bike yesterday afternoon and she now resides in her new home!
Check out the pics, I will set up a website to post the full story as it unfolds!
Thanks again for the advice, I can assure you it will be put to good and full use.
Hopefully Lucky Lou will pop over and take a look and provide further advice.
Looking forward (with a little trepidation) to the journey ahead.
Cheers
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Congratulations! Looks pretty good.
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Congrats! Looks quite like my bike when I got it. Plenty of cleaning needed, but that's a great way to get intimate with every part of the bike. I know you'll have a lot of fun with it.
It looks pretty complete, except for the side covers, but that's typical. And really low mileage if the odo is correct. I see the side case racks. Did it come with cases? They really make the bike very useful for errand running and stowing your helmet and jacket upon arrival.
John McC
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From the frame serial number, it's an '81 model year bike, does it have dual front disc brakes ?
Kinda curious what the flex stainless line is for .
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congrats on your R65 mate, so are you going to strip her right down & do a full rebuild or just a tidy up? [smiley=bmw_smiley.gif]
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HI Folks,
The odo reading is correct and the bike has come with the side cases and covers.
And yes, I want to do a full strip down and rebuild, up close, she looks a mess, but will be cleaning her thoroughly this weekend and will post some new pics to (hopefully) see the difference!
I have purchased the Clymer workshop manual from Motorworks (they are based about 3 miles from where I live) and planning has commenced!