The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
General Category => General Announcements => Topic started by: Flora_Max on March 02, 2007, 03:56:01 PM
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Hi all, New here but I have been told from a long Haired Hippy at the Mt Nardi Yacht Club that this the place to be. My story is that I have not had a regerested bike in over 10 years and have just scored myself a 1987 r65. I am so excited, I have been waiting so long. I Have heaps of questions. The bike is currently being readied for rego and I will post some photo's very soon.
Some questions that spring to mind;
Being a 12 volt system can you (if needed) Jump start from a battery pack?
Is it possible to run spotlights?
Being in Australia what is the best petrol to use?
That's enough for now but if you have any info for a fist time beamer rider pass the on
Cheers to all the disorganized. ;)
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Welcome Lee.
as for your questions..
yes.
yes.
lots.
Enjoy your new bike.
Oh and we need to see it
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Thanks for the reply
I am going to get some shots today. Wont be long.
I think I will like this place
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but seriously, there are a few things a new beemer owner needs to know, like not removing the front engine panel without dissconecting the battery first. and don't pull out the crossover fuel line without first connecting the new one to the old, go on ask me how I know ::)
and I am sure you will be told many more tips.
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Congrats and welcome, enjoy the riding!!
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WELCOME LEE!
Give my best to Mike next time you see him. Better yet, make him give his best to you!
You might want to start a thread in the technical section so this one doesn't get moved there by the thread police! ;)
Running spotlights should not be a problem as long as the electrical system is maintained. Go through and clean all of the contacts, and apply dialectric grease to help keep them that way.
The reason for disconnecting the battery before removing the front cover is it is easy to short out the diode board during the process. And it is best to disconnect the ground cable at the battery, so as not to stress the threads on the bolt on the transmission cover too often.
I don't know how hard it is to remove the airbox on the newer models, but whenever I replace my fuel line, that is how I do it. They must be more hassle than the old, round, clamshell type.
If you need a battery, I highly recommend a Odyssey PC680. It is a so-called "dry cell", and is a lot more maintenance free than a lead acid. Better if you tip over, too.
Welcome, again!
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I forgot to tell the numberplate is BM65 to cool for school.
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Glad to see you are on the Frapper Map! You should add your name and maybe a picture.
Not far from Nimbin, I see...
How long does it take to ferry to NZ from where you are? Just overnight? I am dreaming, right? :)
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How long does it take to ferry to NZ from where you are? Just overnight? I am dreaming, right? :)
Hey Rob, Distance is around 1400 miles, bit of a stretch for the average ferry. :-/
Chris
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I'm thinking ocean-going. But then, I am a bit of a land-lubber, myself. I was amazed at the stuff they have in Seattle. Nothing at all like the ones that cross the Ohio River!
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Thanks for the replies. As for New Zealand and Australia I recommend flying. Finding this site very usefull (thanks All). Rob are thinking of spending time in Nimbin. Michael and I have all the contacts you need. I do own a GPS and have read about geocachhing but never tried as yet. I know there are a few sites in the local area.
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Lee,
As for visiting Australia, I will need to take up the sport of lottery tickets to make that happen, I am afraid.
However, I would relocate there in a heartbeat, if you know of anyone that needs the services of a mainframe computer operator.
I cannot imagine putting my cat in quarantine for the required period. She stays outside about 90% of the time...
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Geocaching NSW
Have you ever seen this Post Office, Lee? There is a cache hidden there!
The smallest P.O. in Australia! (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=dba56c6a-52fc-441d-b25a-f077350157cc)
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.geocaching.com%2Fcache%2Flog%2F606a57b7-6f5d-49b7-85c2-b2696e5aac67.jpg&hash=64f5b7e4a67e52e06035548a80e9da9390f06082)
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Geocaching NSW
Have you ever seen this Post Office, Lee? There is a cache hidden there!
The smallest P.O. in Australia! (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=dba56c6a-52fc-441d-b25a-f077350157cc)
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.geocaching.com%2Fcache%2Flog%2F606a57b7-6f5d-49b7-85c2-b2696e5aac67.jpg&hash=64f5b7e4a67e52e06035548a80e9da9390f06082)
Rob. Yes I know it well. And I do know about the cache there.
There are allot more in the area in more scenic locations. When i stop working and start joy riding I,ll send shots of mike and myself.
By the way my name is Shannon Lee.
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Now you have made us all look silly :) which to be fair, isn't hard in my case. we'll start again.....
Welcome Shannon
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Now you have made us all look silly :) which to be fair, isn't hard in my case. we'll start again.....
If you are referring to me, Kev, everything I have said in this thread is with the greatest reverence of Australia. If you want to look silly in the world, try being a U.S. citizen!
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Hey guys don't beat yourself's up now. Did I tell you what my job is? I'm a poker and sticker. I poke and stick Koalas of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
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Hmmm, a little more detail, please! Right now I am imagining you crawling around under a bridge poking things with a stick...
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Now you
If you are referring to me, Kev, everything I have said in this thread is with the greatest reverence of Australia. If you want to look silly in the world, try being a U.S. citizen!
Come on Rob Keep up ;) I was talking to Shannon, getting us to all call her Lee, and then letting us know that we had it wrong :)
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HER?
That is not what I see under this person's avatar...
(are we allowed to look under (http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/related/Looking_Up_Granny's_Dress.html) their avatars?)
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Thanks Rob. My Manhood is safe. It is amazing how people assume. God help if they knew that I have hair down to my ass.
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C'mon, Shannon. you still haven't elaborated on exactly what a "poker and sticker" does! :D And, I won't apologize for anything as I'm kind of proud of this place - even if the politicians try their damndest to keep everything all screwed up... >:(
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I'm with you, JB, 100%!
And, I'm about ready for a career change, and being a "poker & sticker" sounds pretty damn good right now!
I've got no problem whatsoever crawling around under an Australian bridge poking stray critters with a pointy stick.[smiley=whip.gif]
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must apologize Justin. There is no such thing as a poker and sticker. It is a bad Australian joke. I actually part own a Hydroponic retail business in Lismore. The Syndey Harbour Bridge has never had a problem with Koalas. My apologies again.
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If the job doesn't exist, can we create it???
I had my heart set on being a poker & sticker, and have already started to pack!! ::)
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Ok Ok, I am off to hide in a corner now, I have had it with these mistakes :o ::) :-X Sorry Shannon.
Right where's me beer :-[
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Hey! Me too. Bought it today as a matter of fact. :)
Finally!
I've wanted a BMW about all my life and finally figured out that "this ain't no rehearsal" and I better get off my butt and get it. I've owned bikes on and off for about 38 years now, everything from a Velo moped to a Honda Trail 90 to a KZ-1000. I presently own a Triumph TR140 - '76 Bonneville since 1980 - 1986 Yamaha Radian 600 - one year, too quick and too light (anybody wanna buy one? It's immaculate) - and now the R65. Of all of them I can say after only 30 minutes on this bike (cold and wet snow today here in Upstate NY) that the only two I've ever felt comfortable on are the Bonnie and the BMW. I've always felt that if they aren't reasonably "slow" and don't vibrate then they just ain't safe.
I've been looking at posts here and started drooling when I saw the guy who was giving away the project last week, but then thought to myself "Nah... I wanna ride one this year. I need yet another project just about like I need a hole in the head."
Anyway, I figured I'd better register here now that I have brand new questions to ask people, and it looks to me like this is a good place to ask.
By the way, I have cousins in Oz (outside of Melbourne). I hope to get there before the "rehearsal" is over, but it will, unfortunately, be sans R65. I can barely imagine scraping up enough cash to get me there.
John C.
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"Sorry about the delay" not the words you want to hear when waiting for a ride. But here is some photo's
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And another one. Anybody with any info or original photo's?
Has not been ridden for ten years any advice welcome
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Looks like possibly a '79 or '80 model year bike, single front disc ( which is not a stock rotor from the looks of the rust and slots instead of holes) the trip odometer reset on the back is usually associated with the '79 and '80 But it also has the 'choke ' control on the handle bar and rectangular front brake resevoir of the '81 and later year bikes , so not real sure of the year now!. It looks like a bike that has sat in a humid and salty enviornment with the surface corrosion on the aluminum. May be problematic when trying to remove corroded fasteners. Brake system may well have corrosion inside as well. Has the potential at least from a view from a computer screen to be a moneypit. May be a good parts bike if you can get get cheap. What is the marking on the speedometer at 45-50 km/h mark for ?
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Good eye, Bob. My guess would be '81 or later, and the speedometer has been replaced with an earlier unit.
Note the square airbox and non-flat top carbs. And the seat is from a "2nd generation" R65, also.
Shannon, locate the fuses, and we'll know for sure. They are either behind the right side cover (1st gen) or under the rear of the fuel tank (lift the seat and remove the tool box), which would indicate '81-'84.
The easiest way to tell, of course is the serial #. This is a 7 digit number. On the engine, it is next to the oil filler hole. On the frame, it is stamped into the steering head reinforcement on the right side of the bike.
If they match, that is good. If they don't, it means the engine has been replaced at some time.
Go to this website and put in the serial #(s) and it will tell you the date of manufacture:
http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi
Go to this site, and put in the serial #(s), and see if it has ever been registered here. If it has, you might get some history on it: http://www.micapeak.com/reg/bikes/R65/
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Thanks all, It is apparently a 1987 model. with 63000 in the clock. All it will cost me is the cost to register. Has been in storage for 10 years. Has had the brakes serviced and fluid changed. Work on the carbi's has been done. Replacing battery and Tyre's at a recommendation from the mt Nardi Yacht Club.
Thanks again.
Shannon
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Rob, can you please explain to me about 1st and 2nd generations (Briefly). I wish I had it home to check the numbers.
Bob, the marking on the speedo is something we will have to guess at. Hopefully its not the flat spot indicator!
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Shannon, it can't be a 1987 model, it can be no later than an '84 ('85 in some parts of the world). That is the year breakpoint where they switched to the same monoshock rear suspension and frame as the rest of the Airheads. It is an interesting combination! Rob nailed a real good item to check as far as the fuse holder is concerned. Another thing to check would be whether the front brake light switch is a pressure switch (on a bracket screwed into the brake-line splitter underneath the clutch lever) or a small push to actuate switch in the R/H perch assembly.
Of course, you can always ruin all of our "game-show" type fun and run the VIN number which will reveal the month/year of manufacture! :)
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Rob, can you please explain to me about 1st and 2nd generations (Briefly). I wish I had it home to check the numbers.
1st generation - model years 1978 - 1980 ~ points ignition, cast iron cylinders, smaller valves, flat top carburetors, round front brake fluid reservoir, hydraulic activated front brake switch - to name a few.
2nd generation - model years 1981 - 1984 ~ electronic ignition, Nikasil cylinders, larger valves, dome top carburetors, rectangular brake fluid reservoir, mechanical front brake switch.
3rd generation - model years 1985 until they quit ~ The year the twin-shock chassis went away across the full line (for the U.S.). Except for displacement, the R65, R80 and R100 standard motorcycles were identical. Benefits of these bikes - true tubeless wheels, single sided swingarm making wheel removal simple and eliminating a few weaknesses in the final drive configuration. A harder (chrome?) plating on the tranny input shaft, extending the interval of maintenance.
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Of course, all of these changes vary depending on where one lives. The US did not get the R65 until 1979.
And I think I remember reading that the R65 was still manufactured right up until the end in 1994, for certain non-US markets.
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And some more
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and more
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Still no serial #?
Interesting graphic thing on the headlight...
I heard about you and your dirt bikes... ;)
I just looked at the 1st pictures again. It appears you may have 4-way flashers on that bike!
See the "button" between the instruments? If you depress that in conjunction with one or the other turn signals activated, it should make all 4 flash! It looks like it has been painted black, though. Mine is red.
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbase.com%2Ftomfarr%2Fimage%2F67610334%2Fmedium.jpg&hash=32819cdf56f4db5412dfd564811ae678bf48e0f1)
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Love the GPS on the handle bar!
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Do they have GPS in Oz? ;)
Yeah, it is my accurate speedometer. :-/
It is also my trip meter (fuel gauge) since I dumped the bike and broke off the reset knob. But that only works if you take it on EVERY ride!
It is nice having a better idea of how fast I am really going, though. Today on the way to work, it read 30 mph, and my speedometer was steady at 40. Could you imagine how mad the drivers behind you would be if you believed your speedometer?
Here is my photo essay on mounting it on the bike. (http://www.pbase.com/tomfarr/gpsr_on_motorcycle)
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Yes we do have GPS. I never thought of using it like you do Rob. I bought mine to find the back boundary points. Try and find a 4" x 4" white peg sticking 8" out off the ground in thick rainforest. The Rock Valley post office is easy.
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Rob, thanks a lot for your GPS photo essay. Strangely enough, I've been watching some small units on eBay (cheaper than I'd thought) & was thinking yesterday about PM-ing you to see if you could put up something similar to this! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] You've always got great documentation!
My biggest concern would be the visibility in direct sunlight: valid?
Also, battery drain & theft, or are you able to easily remove when leaving your bike for any length or time, or unattended?
Thanks.
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OK and the winner is ? Not yet sure. Vin No 6311290 with the date 11/80 so rob Roller is the closest.
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That would make it a US model year 1981, at least you should have Nika-Sil cylinders, and stuff...