The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Jon_P on December 21, 2006, 09:54:49 AM
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i say said hi to everyone already so now its time to show you what i have. it is a 79 R65 that was in a accident. it ended up at my local salvage yard some how. the poor girl was from wymoning. that is all i know about it. looks like the P.O. had hit the right exhaust header and crushed it pretty good. there was also some fresh blacktop in the left valve cover so it did go down, though i dont think hard. i have really liked the cafe/streetfighter bikes and this would fit the bill nice. i have a new exhaust header on order, already found a air box & starter cover for it. i also just won a choke control from ebay. the tank has been removed, stripped of the bronco brown and repainted with ppg dbu acid tangerine with a red pearl mid coats and alot of clear coats. the seat is going to be sent off soon.
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Looks like you need some other bits as well. I notice the gauges are all naked and exposed. I have a cut-off dash panel from an LS model that just might work for you if you plan to fit a small after market cafe type fairing. PM me if you are interested. I can send photos. It's yours for postage.
Rich
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yes please send me a pix of that. i wasnt planning on doing anything because they where going to be hidden by the fairing. though you would be able to see the other side looking rough as you look at the gauges.
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got some of the first parts, here are the new shocks.
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i finally have seen a picture of bolt on frame brace. i saw it on ebay. i can fab them up easy!!! so i am going to add that to my cafe winter project.
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my first real day off of work in two months! my family let me spend it with my project. i wanted to get the wiring put back together. i had three extra wire looms coming out and they didnt match any of the wiring diagrams. well after mapping and trying to find out what and why i had these extra looms, i removed the entire wiring harness and found some non factory connections using the blue splice clamp type. i removed all the splice clamps and in doing so removed all the extra looms. i have no idea why the P.O. did this? now i need to fix where the splices where and then reinstall the wiring again.
i did mount my new painted tank on, i like the looks of the orange over the brown. next the seat should be back in a week or two. the exhaust and exhaust wrench should be here this week. once i have that i should be able to get it going. then get it inspected for a cleared title and registration. once i have it inspected i can make the mods for the cafe look.
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I don't see anywhere that you mention how long it might have sat at the salvage yard before you "adopted" it. You might want to give a good look inside the carbs, pop the float bowls, etc, to make sure nothing's gummed up...
You're making a lot more progress than I am and the shocks look cool!
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from the best i could tell it sat this part of this summer. the carbs where pretty clean except for the water!! there wasnt any carb to air cleaner boots on so i think that is where it picked up the water during transport from wymoning to here?? just a guess. i pulled the carbs all ready and gave them a good soak in gas and seafoam. i blew them out. i should be set thill i can get it fired up to see if they are off.
speaking of carbs, where do you hook them up to sinc them up??
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I KNOW! I KNOW! (I had already created the image for another thread)
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Remove the screw, it can be on quite tight.
Make sure you keep your rubber hoses away from hot exhaust pipes.
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thanks rob! has anyone told you today you rock! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
i got my new exhaust and exhaust wrench today! when i got home from work they where waiting for me, there is something about new parts that just take a crappy day and make it better!
i will work more on the wiring this week. i have some nice weather pack ato fuse folders that i am going to use instead of the stock one. i can move them up into the tool box under the seat.
i better get going. i only have three months left!
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well a update. i have my wiring straighten out. found a clean and clear title frame that i may switch to? so i have to think hard on that. i got my new head lamp and fairing in. the fairing is being painted and should be ready. couple more odds and ends i should be able to try to crank her over and see where i am at there. i will get some new pixs of it with the fairing and tank soon.
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here it is with the fairing and the new orange color. you cant see any of the pearl in the orange but there is enough there to make it shimmer.
i will get the seat back next week from the upholsterer. i have another seat coming from a ebay sale that i am going to do a cafe seat with on the stock pan.
my oldest son now likes it because it looks like a newer sport bike! then told him it was 28 year old, he didnt believe me. ;D
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I don't often have the opportunity to use use this phrase, but:
Radical Dude! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Brand?
How about pictures of your mounts? (give me ideas for my fairing)
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its a givi a760 fairing. it has two L shaped tabs the mount low on the fairing and slip on the head lamp mounting bolts. the upper mounts are these adjustable rods that clamp onto the handle bars. they have alot of cool parts like hard & soft bags, trunks, fairings & windsheilds. they dont have a hard bag mount for our r65 but i am going to buy some for a r1100 and make the changes needed to use them on the r65.
the fairing is listed as 18" tall. it has a little kick up on the edge so it should push the air even higher. this will be my first bike with any type of windsheild or fairing. so far everyone said i will like it. well see, i kind of like the push of the wind, though i will admit i dont care for it when its really cold.
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pix of the handle bar mount
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headlamp mount
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That is a pretty mount!
But now I have to ask what the diamond plate is about. Instrument mount? More pics please!!!
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not a big fan of the diamond plate but it was what i had in alum. and i wanted to see what it would look like. it just covers the gauge faces and key mounts. i need to weld another mount tab to bolt it down with. right now it is held on with the key mounting nut and two small screws going next to the key mount. pretty simple set up as it is now. i may get a flat piece of alum and then do a brushed look or get a sheet of abs plastic and make one out of black plastic stock??? what do ya think?
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Interesting looking fairing. :o Are your headpipes the ones from MAC?
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yep mac head pipes off of ebay. are they ok? :-? they where the only ones i could find. saw a couple of ebay that where oem that went for almost as much as these new.
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I had missed the two pictures at the bottom of page
two one! :o (duh...again...!)
It wasn't until Justin's query about the Mac headers that I figured I had missed something...
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I kind of like the "angular" styling of the MACs.
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i havent been working on it as much as i like with the cold weather, been crazy busy with work. i had cleaned up the wiring, and put it back on. now i have to figgure how did they pack all that wiring around the front! :-? i took it off, i i thought i knew how it went back on. it nows turns hard because of the wiring. so i took off the headlamp mount and looking at what to move where. then i stated to think if i am doing a cafe do i really want all that wiring? strip it down the basics? i dont know. with the pictures posted of the cafe bikes it does temped to strip it down to as little as i can.
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here it is with the fairing and the new orange color. you cant see any of the pearl in the orange but there is enough there to make it shimmer.
i will get the seat back next week from the upholsterer. i have another seat coming from a ebay sale that i am going to do a cafe seat with on the stock pan.
my oldest son now likes it because it looks like a newer sport bike! then told him it was 28 year old, he didnt believe me. ;D
Hey that bike cleaned up real nice. That fairing kinda makes it look like and alien creature!
TTFN,
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i just about have the wiring down to the bare minimum. wow there is alot of wiring missing now. dropped a battery in to see what and where i'm at. pulled the plugs and hit the starter button. it turned over and i had somestuff coming out of one of the cyclinders. so i look down and see something! :-/ now i'm a little concerd at what i am going to find. remove the exhaust and the carb, valve cover, rockers and the the head. i found a bunch of what looks like sand that is soaked with oil. now i'm wondering. pull the jug off and look and the cylinder walls. seems ok, rings seem ok. could a bunch of dirt get in when the bike was laid down?
this will put me back a little till i can make sure there isnt a bunch more in there. i planned on changing the oil anyways. now i might try to do a flush if i can.
how rare are these with a kick start? i saw one once on ebay, wondering if i could find another someday? or can i use one from a different model and year?
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We have 1980, 1982, and a 1984 R65s, and the '80 has a kicker. I have been told they could be had on all of the bikes but were strictly special order. They are pretty much useless on the bigger bikes but I have started our '80 ONE TIME with the kicker - after it was warmed up. I have read BMW farkled up on the 5 speed kickers and they wear out /break very easy.
As far as sand coming out? I don't know what to tell you but it would make me very uneasy. You said, "...i had somestuff coming out of one of the cyclinders." Where did ot come out, out the exhaust port, muffler, where? If if coughed and blew some crap out of a muffler then maybe critters had built up in there, mud daubers, etc.
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all the sand mixed with oil was in the cylinder. i hade the spark plug removed and it came out the spark plug hole. i then removed the the head to see what was going on in there. the oil in the pan is clean? and the cylinder walls are ok. it doesnt show signs that it was run with sand in the cylinder, no marks or scratches in the walls. i havent see something like this before. i am thinking it is from the accident that it was in or during transport the stuff was blown in there while on some flat bed truck? anyways i ended up tearing down the heads & cylinders to take a look. not a big deal, just more time. more i get to learn about my new family member.
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I don't think I have ever heard of that either. Was it in both sides or just one? Just scrub everything out real good and slap it back together, I suppose...
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i got everything cleaned out and back together. i also got in some '01 givi bag mounts. i had figured on having to make some changes to make them work. well all i have to do is cut the rod that goes from side to side in the rear and they will work nice! this weekend is the going to be the finishing up. i hope to have it fully running and ready for everyday use by monday!!!! cross my fingers and wish me luck!!!
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it was all robs fault for showing me that buetiful cafe r65. so i changed direction in the rebuild. i am going to cafe it. i have removed the top tree and shaved down the handle bar mounts flush with the tree and polished it up. i had a little head lamp mount the uses the bottom mounts and another threaded mount i found on the bottom of the tree. i now have a small bottom mount 4 1/2" headlamp that uses a h4 bulb. i have a fiberglass tail section coming. the tail is going to be a little different and a normal cafe seat. instead of clubmans i am going with a set of clip ons. trimmed the wiring down to as bar as i can get. wisconsin lets us do alot of mods to a stock bike and still be legal. some may not like what i did or how far i went with it but it will be a trimmed down little blaster.
i have looking at a set of rear sets for it, dont totally understand where they mount to but i will see after i get the new seat on and see how my feet are with a lowered saddle, i might want them back and up a bit.
i know, i know you all want pixs. i will post some when i get the seat on after painting.
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Sounds like your are having a lot of fun! I'm glad I could help out in some small way! ;D
Steve Hawkins bike again: http://suraklyn.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1170355893/4#4
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ok! i finally got my clipons today! i have the seat base and should have the seat pad today or monday. i am so close!!!! working six days a week has made it harder to work on this project and then changing my mind half way through didnt help. but this weekend i might be real close, need to get it ready and have a good 5 or 6 shake down runs before june 1st when i leave with it to indy.
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lovely looking beemer on the way Jon. Fingers crossed she'll run a good as she looks.
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dang my pixs didnt load?? try this again?
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ok i hate my computer here at work. have to try when i get home and load them from there.
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or in black?
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shaved and polished tree
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Jon, looks very clean but one thing that really "jumps out" at me is the top of the fork tubes. I see some sort of billet cap in your future. ;) The exhaust looks very "old-school" and I bet it barks pretty decent with them shorties! ;D See if our new guy, bpw, will send you some close-ups of his rear-sets. From what I can see they look pretty simple.
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Looks great Jon!
Which color is coming to Indianapolis?
I really like the graphic and the color on the orange.
And of course, one can never go wrong with black.
Justin brought up a good point. Do you have plans for rearsets before the trip? You are a braver man than I, if not, especially since you have already removed the passenger peg supports.
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Black is the way.
Cool.
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i have a set of rearsets from a kaw ninja and a set from a gixxer that i can make work, the shift side is easy the brake side is a little harder because the rearsets are set up for a hydralic disc set up and not drum so i have to do some fame work.
i wont run the rear sets till after indy, if i have enough time i might send the black tank to be repainted black and then have a white graphic like the orange tank?? what do you think?
if anyone was wondering what and where that tail came from, that was custom made from a star flat track racer rear tail. they cut it in half and made it a little wider in the front and then made a new mold from it. they made the seat pad also. once theat one wears i may make another pad that has a little more pad and would run even along the top.
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I like the black best - as is. Is there a problem with the paint that you want to have it redone or do you just want to add the graphic? I like the graphic on the orange, but it's a very interesting look with the classic black tank and the 'star flat track racer rear tail'. Nice job!
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I think a toaster tank would look quite nice! ;)
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your right justin a toaster tank would really set it off, have to keep a eye open for one. i had thought about taking some alum and polishing it up and sticking it on the sides like a toaster cover.
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Wow, Great job, you've really inspired me. I thought it was taboo to modify a BMW. I recently cut down the rear fender on my R100s, so you would see more of the rear tire, and pulled the directionals in closer to the tail/brake lite. Looks great, but I was afraid to tell anyone. Im also considering chopping the faring. But as I probabaly will sell it , I better slow down. I love fabricating custom parts though. Keep up the good work.
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well it realy is taboo to do what i did, i have heard alot of from the old gaurd that i should have never done that and its no longer safe for the road, blah blah blah blah. well my drum beats like this and i always make a bike my own, that way i know which one is mine in the parking lot or rally
did you cut off the part where the lic. plate mounts to? i saw that i could unbolt that part and reuse it in another place. i took and cut off the reflector tabs. i then took a small piece of flat bar and drilled a hole in it. i then welded the tab on to the lic mount plate. in wisconsin your not allowed to run the plate up and down, so mine is set up so you can read it but now mounted on the lower shock mount. i will take some pixs of that to show what i did.
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well i thought i was all ready to go out and try to start her up today. dropped the battery in and hooked up the connections. put the key in and turned it on, the tail light came on, hit the starter button. nothing. pulled the tank off, and started checking everything. found i had two of the connectors switched. put the tank back on, switched the key, nothing. started to check everything, everything is as it should, i then started to follow the power, started at teh battery, to the key switch, kill switch, starter button, to the starter relay. found that power was not going all the way through the starter relay. i pulled the relay out enough so i could check it with a test light. as i was holding the starter button and checking i touch the lead to the clutch switch. bam it turned over! when removing the clutch switch i removed the ground. oops. needed that. so that put me back a whole day trying to figure that one out.
when i put about a gallon of fuel in the tank i had some fuel dripping out the over fill tubes on the bowls. got to set the floats or get new needle valves i guess. it started getting late so time to stop. try again tomorrow.
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She'll look even better when you've fitted the rear sets Jon.
Love the orange paint job and graphic, but rather than a toaster tank I'd have a think about getting my hands on a Norton looking tank and modding it to fit by splicing in a BMW frame tube.
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i love to fab stuff up, i had thoughts of finding a rough and abused tank that no one wants on ebay and using it to mod a tank i got from don. i was thinking about cutting it in half from side to side and then cut out the front side panels to weld on to my tank for some extra width and then use the rear to add to the length of the tank. give it that long duc look. stripp down the frame and have it powder coated in a chrome like color, spoke rims, maybe a couple other goodies. but all of that would be a winter thing cuz i want to go ride! this year! get my carbs worked out and i should be ok. got a week to do that before shake down week and then indy weekend!!
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WOW
I haven't checked on this thread in a while and I'm floored! Went back and re read all the posts just to make sure this was the same bike! I really like it a lot. Love how you cleaned it up. Just curious about battery placement. It would be a shame to chunk up the brilliantly clean space aft of the main frame.
Rich
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Jon,
Lookin good, you seem to have rid yourself of more weight than I managed to do on my little red one. My battery is still a standard one in its normal carrier. I too like to keep the tank the same colour as the frame - black in your case - looks meaner!
If I were to do another one, I would do something very similar, start with a post 81 twin shock, strip it down to the absolute bare minimum removing all frame lugs and mounts that were not required. But I would keep to standard (Euro) or straight bars and standard position front footrests and a single seat. I suppose you chaps from across the pond would call it a street scrambler/bobber type of thing? Although I would have to keep at least some of the mudguards/fenders as it still rains a lot over here!
Of course I would run it alongside my Cafe Racer, not instead of the Cafe Racer.
Be warned Clip-ons and rear-sets are fine for cruising as long as you are doing 45 mph or above, that way the airflow will keep the weight off your wrists. A tank bag is also a useful thing to rest on!
I once rode with a chap who had a Sunbeam S8, blinking thing was a right bag of spanners, after 3/4 of an hour doing less that 40mph (40 was its max down hill!), I had to leave him and meet him at the next stop. I had a suitable beverage waiting for him when he turned up at the warm beer emporium! But my wrists needed the break!
Anyone got a spare R65? for free...!
cheers
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i know what you mean about wanting another or three to build. i would love to builda stripped down bobber type, a full bag tour type. a original stock one and i have the cafe. so yep three more is all i would need.
well update on the build. i got everything back into place as it should. turned the key and gave it a bump. kind of hoping for a pop but nothing. checked and i have spark, have to work the carbs i am guessing. need to get a couple of gaskets and while i'm really tearing them down some floats, and o-rings. getting so close i am temped to pack it up int he truck and drop it at my local shop. but i would hate myself if i did. i want this for myself, its just i need a whole day to really get it running i think. cross my fingers.
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Hey Jon
If you don't mind bump starting you could put on a different Alternator
http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/EDLBMW.html
and a battery Eliminator from a BSA and get rid of the battery and the starter. Then you would have a minimualist R65.
I love the see-through frame!!!
Perhaps another project forming in my head... 8-)
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wow thats cool!, i got a small sealed gel cell battery that i could lay on the side and mount it under the rear tail hump.
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right bag of spanners,
Steve, I haven't werked on my Brit stuff in a while but I assume this is similar to a bodge or cobble?
cheers,
rich
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Yes and No, the engine sounded like it had a bag of spanners in it as well!
Some classics should be for display purposes only...and this was definately one of them.
A candidate for a 'nut and bolt' restoration, I fear.
Some older aircraft were often described as '10,000 rivets flying in close formation', this motorbike was '200 nuts and bolts travelling in aproximately the same direction'!
However the owner seemed to know his way around it and was able to nurse it around gently - with all its problems! Just not with me in company!
Steve H
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HI Jon,
Saving the pics for future inspiration.
Keep 'em coming please!
TTFN,
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Steve,
Thanks, your descriptives crack me up!
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eurotec came through for me again! i asked about brake lines and told them what i was doing. well they had one made to what i needed and got it to me in record time! i got it all on and started to bleed the system. i was real close before leaving for work so when i get home i can finish easy enough.
what i ended up doing is removed the brake lines and tee from the master cylinder all the way down to the steel line that comes out of the caliper. i installed the front brake pressure switch where the steel line was coming out of in the master cylinder. i found that the master cylinder has a built in tee! so i removed the plug from the bottom and installed the new brake line with a banjo bolt and fitting there. nice clean easy set up. i will get some pixs so everyone can see. as far as price for the custom line? no more than getting the steel lines and hoses that are for stock, maybe even a little less.
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i finely got it running really well! like a raped ape. my worries of not having a fourth gear where settled. i do have all the gears. i need to get my rear lamp worked out because it works in the wrong key position. my exhaust is loud! really really loud, i think i really need to shange them out to supertrapps mini cans.
i will ride it like it is for now and i may consider changing over to a mono shock set up this next coming winter along with having the frame redone, there is a new start up business next to my shop and they will be offering chrome and powder coating so i may have to look at doing something like that!
i have the black tank off to the painter for a new coat of black paint. once it vents out for a week or two i will do a graphic like the orange tank but do the graphic in white.
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Jon,
I have nothing against the mono shock arrangement, but I prefer the twin shock. Seems a lot of grief for little gain.
Get hold of some wire wheels first......
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i have a line on some spokers! so maybe it will work out.
i have a crazy idea for a different rear supension set up. going to brace the swing arm and then go from there. it seems like a pretty straight foward fab job so maybe i can even make it happen yet this summer or fall! yet need to gather some more parts.
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Whatever 'floats your boat' Jon.
Be interested to see it whatever you do.
Steve H
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ok the last changes i think ;D
i wanted to rework the whole rear supension but there just wasnt enough room without having to rework the whole frame and i wasnt feeling up to doing that just yet.
i did remove the rear sub frame and fab some new shock mounts and seat rails.
i did also get rid of those cheap loud mufflers and get some supertrapps that can be tuned. i can make them loud or quite or somewhere in between. think i am going to go with the somewhere in between (i do live in the land of loud pipes saves lives ;D) plus the HD guys will think i am nuts anyways.
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i am going to do a graphic like i did on the orange tank on this black one only in white. then i can switch out when i need a change in color in my life. but i have to wait till the paint finishes it out gas before that can be done.
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I like what you've done! please put a few more pics up on photo bucket or somthin' like that. Not a rainy day bike eh!
rich
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i just started out on myspace so i will do a build blog out there with all the build up pixs. i have a camera close by so when i am building i take a ton of pixs but never post them becuase it would really eat up some space.
rain? i have a rain suite. i dont mind the rain, it will be the stones that hit me reminding me to wear my jacket with the back protector ;D
this winter it will be toren down again and sent next door for a powder coat of the frame. i have from now and till then figure out what color. a chrome like, black, thought about white but i would have to keep it really clean then. so i think its down to black or a chrome like. what does everyone think? now remember i want to be able to switch from my orange tank to black so it has to go with both. and i will most likely do the rims the same color.
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Damn Jon, that's slick! I really like what you've done there, especially with the whole solo seat & shocks area! Nice!![smiley=thumbsup.gif]
That's quite a change from the way this project began, huh?
So, are you planning to stay fenderless, or maybe go with some smaller fiberglass units?
There are some cool rear fenders that are short & incorporate the tag & lights...
Keep us updated, and also keep up the great work! ;)
ps: I see you've prominently featured the Brown sidestand... ;D
pps: Keep the bike a glossy black!
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Jon,
Like that seat arrangement and the shocks. Bet that stiffened up the rear end. Which leads me back to the question I asked earlier. If you have stiffened up the rear shock mounts for the twin shocks setup, you have already resolved much of the supposed advantages of the mono shock setup - bar the swing arm itself? I.e. you have rid yourself of the flexy subframe. If I were you, I would look to a second frame to mess around with for the proposed mono conversion. This current one looks pretty damn fine to me!
You could use an aluminium blade fender at the back and have it hug the wheel closely, mounted from the swingarm, like a modern hugger or an old BMW racer. leave it bare or paint it. A small blade type fender for the front would not go amiss either...
This is talking from a UK perspective - wettest June since records began - and still raining!
Of course if you can get away with it, with no fenders at all and it does not rain much - why the hell not?
How about some badges for the tanks.....Leave the Harley riders in no doubt what you have.
Finally - paint. Do not paint too much of the bike the same colour.......frame and tank in one colour is enough.....if you do the wheels the same colour it might well be too much. Keep the wheels in a contrasting colour and do not paint the engine, unless you can guarrantee to do it very well indeed - and then not in the same colour as the rest of the bike. Keeping the wheels silver might still be your best bet, unless you can get them wires and then it won't matter.
My humble oppinion only. I am very jelous... >:(
Keep on hacking
Steve H
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i am lucky enough to have another frame for this! i would need to get a new swingarm and drive shaft if i where to go to a mono shock set up on that frame.
as far as it stiffen the frame because everything is welded together and not bolted. i have done things like this before and learned that you cant go any farther over with the shocks. the angle of the shock effects how it works, i had set it up so the shocks mounts are the same distance from the pivot point of the swing arm and that keeps the shock at almost 70% of its use so i lost a little in the shocks. i can ride it but i do have a set of stiffer springs coming for them.
i wont paint the engine, i like it raw like it is, plus its easy to clean with soapy water and a brightpad.
i had it over at my sister-in-laws house last night for the holiday. her husband is a HD guy along with his friends. they could stop talking about it. everyone was sitting on it. i had got four offers to work on their bikes. ;D plus they did like the sound of it because it had a deep rubble to her cuz i am running all the disc on her exhaust cans.
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Wow Jon P,
Here is another bike a lot like yours. Love the paint on this bike. Keep up the good work.
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i was out riding today on it. maybe because i didnt ride it that much or because i changed the rear end, i have to get used to the rear end lifting when i get on the throttle. unlike my chain drive bikes that drop in the rear when i get on them.
i goofed up on the wiring because now i dont have a rear marker or brake lamp! have to get that worked out. the supertrapps mini cans work nice, they have a nice growl at idle and not enough to drive my neighbors nuts but when i get on it she barks a little.
when i got home i started looking at why i didnt have rear lamps and moved the seat back a inch.
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This bike just about gets away with the all black theme, in my opinion, but only because there is just enough contrast with the tank paint and the spokes etc.
Nice looking machine.
Jon, the stiffer rear springs you were talking about earlier will help with the 'shaft effect' i.e the lifting of the rear. But you are never going to be rid of it entirely. Perhaps the angle that the shocks are now at is also implicated. Most people learn to live with it though.
Also you have a significant portion of the weight of the bike up front, ie. you with your clip-ons leaning forward, so the bike is less loaded at the rear and more mobile with the softer springs. The seat move will help.
Let us know how you get on..
Steve H
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this is my first shaft driven bike and i just dont think i ever notice that feeling before. i feel that i did make it more pronounced with the shock angle change. it only took a couple spins around the block to get used to the rear wheel lift.
i planned on having a white decal like the one i have on the orange tank put on the black one,i think it would also match my arai phil reed helmet nice if i did that. my wife thinks i should do a silver or maybe a alumium color to off set the black tank and the rest of the bike.
next big thing to find out is the head lamp at night, it seems to work nice but i want to be able to see at night so one of the next shake down runs will be after 10 pm to see if that stays or goes.
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As far as headlamps are concerned, if the one you have is lacking, there is very little wrong with the original, if you have it. You will have to find a set of 'ears' to mount it though.
Depends on the 'look' that you want.
I am using the original on mine as it still suited the 60's cafe racer look that I was after, I mounted using a set of aluminium ears. This setup seems to be able to attract 'flying critters' at night with great efficiency (have to keep my mouth shut in summer). I can see a great distance with it, now it sports a halogen bulb thingy...
The mounts that I use are from here:
<http://www.discovolantemoto.co.uk/index.jsp
Cheers
Steve H
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I think you should go with high and low beam HID headlights, with a look maybe similar to the R1200GS, which frightens me.
As long as I'm spending somebody else's money!
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ok i am DONE! [smiley=clap.gif]
i had it running and it was running good but at some weird flat spots and dead spots. after fighting it for almost three weeks i finally figured out what it was. needle jets!! darn things where not bing needle jets, my friend at the shop thinks they might be a mukuni needle jets. so i have the proper bing needle jets, its tuned properly, alittle on the rich side cause the pluggs are not white or gray but closer to a dark brown but to black. i have to exhaust tuned to what i like to hear without driving people totally nuts. the seat is where i like it.
i am DONE!!!!
eight months later starting with a junk yard salvage bike to a road burner!!!
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And the final picture is.... (https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skylinechat.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fsmiley08.gif&hash=9e752211eb4aa7c44065509e89725f65f7967129) ??? Show me, show me!!
Have you finished the graphics on the tank or is that another time?
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Yeah Jon, Aida's right, you can't announce your bike's all finished & then provide no pics! [smiley=camera_sm.jpg]
I mean, what's up with that??!!
It's not really "finished" until everyone gets to "oooh" and "aahhh" and tell you how cool it is!! ;)
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the truth is you bet me to the pix posting. ;D my camera was dead! but now the much awaited pix!
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Wow. I want to take it to a track. That looks like jail type fun.
What did you end up with for head lights?
Were you thinking of the Triumph pattern for your fuel tank flash?
Nice work.
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Lurve the new dash panel - nice!
What kind of shocks are you using?
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the shocks are some china made repo that i got from somewhere, i see some like them at omars and mikesxs.
i told the painter i wanted something like my orange tank but in white.
dash? it doesnt have a dash anymore. ;D just a bit of polished top clamp. one of the guys who works for me asked about that, how fast do i know i going? by feel and i do now have a little gps so when i go on longer trips i know for sure what i am doing and not just pacing everyone else.
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ok it is now winter again and little hope of getting out and riding on the streets till we get some warmer weather or i need to stud up a set of tires for ice covered roads. anyways i have a extra r65 frame sitting there in the garage and i will have another go at my bike. so i pretty much stripped it down again. this time i am going to go a little more with the frame mods.
that is where is started this time around
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here are the first couple cuts
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spent a couple more hours this morning working on it. figure if i spend a couple of hours a day or every other day i will get more done than a whole saturday of work.
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Lookin' pretty sick there Jon. Can't you work faster, I can't wait to see whats at the end of your vision.
rich
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Just wondering, what clip ons did you use. I havent seen ones that are 22mm like i guess theyre supost to be instead of 7/8ths i guess there's a small difference and what about that myspace blogg!!!
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the clip on bars i measured how far i needed to go and then took a grinder to the bars to get them down to size.
i wont be using them, i would sell them if you want them.
my space blog?? i have a myspace account that i cant figure out how to use!! ;D
and rich it is going to be old meets new with a touch of far east meets west germany meets harley. that is my teaser for where i'm going this time.
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Hi Jon,
I was going to suggest lifting the front motor mounts to above the down tubes. This does a couple of things: Gives you more ground clearence in corners and gets the tranny/engine directly in line with the drive shaft which seems to help not wear out the universal joint. The guys that road race airheads do this to get better handling/more cornering.
It looks that your latest incarnation of the frame has done this. If not please consider it. Now where is that Barber pic of the R65 I saw there....
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Jon, any idea of what that bike weighs?
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hey semper gumby have you been looking at my build plans? i am thinking about that, in fact i have a frame that i could take the right lower front mount from so i would have to try to cut down the left with the standard kick stand mount which i dont use anyways.
i havent weighted it yet but i know that the last set up was a lot lighter than stock. now mind you i am not the smallest guy and my wife says i look like the grape ape riding it but i can pick it up of the ground when it id upright. i can deadlift almost 550 lb. so i know it is less than that, that is as close as i can get right now. i do plan on taking it to a feed mill this spring and weight it when i'm done.
well a hour of cutting, drilling and grinding after work before the family got home and i got the other side done.
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here is a shot from the rear
and no this isnt my disign for say, i am doing my version with the lower frame drop out like vanzen oldcro race frame. just wanted to say that so no one thinks i am taking credit for this disign.
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work and a funeral slowed me down a bit this week. well i was able to get back on track aa little. i started with the swingarm fab today. i started with a hoop that ended up not matching the angular lines i had already so that went to the side adn made a new more angluar swingarm brace. here is what i ended up with.
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Call me when you need a test pilot.
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sorry ed here is my test pilot ;D
this was done last summer, a friend of mine who is a photographer and he asked a bar maid he knew to add some beauty other than my ugly mug
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Not sure if it is just me Jon, but I am not getting to the pickies from your last couple of posts...which is a pity
Steve H
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Yes, Steve, it's quite a shame! ;)
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hit a snag, as my kids would say SNAP!
i was getting ready to pull everything down so i could do final welds. pulled the trans, it didnt just pop out but it did come out. the engine judt wouldnt come out. the new seat rails i put in where to low, so i had to remove them. cut a couple new pieces and put a bend in them so it would come up enough to enable the engine to be removed.
well now its off to final welds, then to the media blaster, then i dig out the powder coating gun.
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well i havent been able to spend the time i needed on it the last couple of weeks. this week end i have been able to get started again. finalized how the swing arm is going to be done. i also didnt like the idea of just letting the final drive being held on by four bolts. so i made a mount to tie the final drive to the swing arm along with the normal mounting bolts.
i need to find a 14mm tap now for my uper shock mount. so i am getting closer to getting the mock up done.
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Hmmm, just spotted your "test pilot" over on http://www.advrider.com/
rich
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jeff the photographer hangs out over there. i will have to go comb the site and see what he posted.
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I guess I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish. I originally thought you were building a cafe style and the latest pics looks like you are building a chopper and trying to come up with a sprung swingarm that at a glance looks kinda like a hard-tail?
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i am going for a more of a retro boardtracker with some updated items. the seat will still be floating like i had it, and smaller tank, spoker rims.
my back cant do hardtails anymore, and building a frame with rear supension is my next challenge in building.
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I was just curious as from a distance this will almost look like a hard-tail and you have the springer front end, fat front tire, etc...
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I think that this will be the first R65 that I've ever seen with a springer front end - seems like it
may be a bit of a 'bobber, hardtail and flat tracker rolled into one.. certainly very unique !
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i was looking at a leading link but even the price of a russian copy was crazy. i had got the springer for another bike but then figgured out how to run it on here instead.
i worked on the shock mounts, maybe this will help it not look so much like a hardtail.
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Not really, the way the angle of the swingarm flows into the rest of the frame it's gonna look like a hard-tail - IMO. It's going to look interesting when you get it finished.
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I cannot find it anymore, but at one time I had found a JPG of someone else's modified, kinda Bobber-style R65. It had a
black and orange tank with under the crankcase located exhaust canisters, a sprung, suspended-style "tractor seat" and a backbone mounted rear shock
in a similar position as yours, but the rear swingarm wasn't the neat little triangulated number you've developed. If my memory is correct, the swingarm
pn that bike had an extended linkage (or so it appeared) up over the rear wheel, so that the shock was even more horizontal in its position. I think that
there was a closely fitted rear fender that was "live" (.i.e it moved up and down with the swingarm, like on the Kawasaki Drifter and some older classics
from many decades ago).
Please keep us posted with photo updates of your creation - it is alot of fun to watch someone's creative ideas come to life !
-Mike
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Whoa... Jon, this is one wild a$$ project! DON'T STOP! ;)
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Nice.......... I like the front wheel !
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Joan are those tigger ears on your helmet? my kids saw them right away, now my girls want them on their helmets. my oldest son has a soft rubber mohawk looking thing though i tease him it looks more like martin the space dude helmet. ;D
i am in a build off contest with this and have till march first! so other than the seat rails i am way ahead. now i am really thinking about making a racing cage like side car for it to really make it look different, also i would be able to take my little little boys for a ride, i dont have anything that they could even think about touching the pegs so the side car idea would make me the cool dad of the year with my little guys (they are 3 & 5 by the way)
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Before that springer front end went on, I was envisioning that it was going to look something like this bike -
found this on the internet... not sure whose it was ! :D
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t138/nhmaf/Bmw-1.jpg
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I'm really impressed, Jon. Keep up the good work!
(how many spokes ARE there on that front wheel, anyway???)
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(how many spokes ARE there on that front wheel, anyway???)
alot! i think there is like 60 spokes jammed in there.
i have done a couple of bikes kind of like this, the others where yamaha's xs650 and a honda cb750. with my back in bad shape i really shouldnt do hard tails any more. (yes i am one who really likes hardtails and how they ride along with the increadable amount of power that goes to the rear wheel, supensions take alot of power from you engines)
some one on another board i hang at said it looks like somethng a Russell would make if he chopped a BMW. i thought that was kind of cool.
so i have only a couple of weeks to finish so i can ride on the great fools ride. should be fine, have to get though my family being sick with the flu. i was sick for the last week and before that hurt my back again but it was more of a pinched nerve or pulled muscle this time so i recovered quick.
not sure if i want to paint it yet? if i do may some primer and let it look like a rat bike. i brazed over a bunch of the weld joints. it makes it looks like the frame should fall apart at any thing more than 10 miles or 5 mph what ever comes first. LOL i then would tear down the engine next winter and polish everything and then paint the tank and frame a nice silver to match??? i dont see the point of painting if the engine doesnt show the same amount of detail, that might just be me.
well i should go out in the shop and get to work while my family is in bed sleeping and throwing up all over the place.
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I think a "suede Rat" would be pretty cool... Keep us posted with plenty of pix...
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i started putting it back together this weekend. should be finish by sunday? or next weekend??
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I hope you plan on at least tossing an old shop-rag over that seat form before you take off! :o
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Why do I keep getting flashes of fishtail pipes? Really a werk of art you have going there. I'm itching to see more as you progress.
rich
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wow thats crazy you say that rich. i have a idea for some fishtail exhaust set up. i have to deciede how i want to run it.
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i was just out in the shop aand i had the exhaust pipes run high over the jugs. i really like the look, i would have to make some changes to the exhaust pipes but nothing to hard. wish i had a set of fish tails to see how they would look run high??? though they would be really close to my legs so i would have to run some heat sheilds or wrap they in exhaust heat tape or something.
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Carbs in front, exhaust bundling over/around gearbox? Hot feet, look like a fighter plane.
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From http://motorclassic.gmxhome.de/start_gs.htm
which I got from http://www.restat.de/
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Having reached the age where the interesting things are placed on much too young persons the only comment I have is this: Waauuv!!
greetings from a sunny north with good riding conditions
trolle
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i didnt finish on April 1st like i planned. i am still waiting on a couple of parts that have been on back order for ever. i also took place in a contest on another forum with other crazies like myself who took there bikes and made all different types and style, a cafe, boardtrackers, choppers, bobbers and everything in between. even though i didnt finish finish i was able to complete the rules and ride mine on April 1st so mine could still be voted on by the other members. as of today i have 44% of the vote! my nearest competor at the moment is 21%!!! kind of suprised at that, i even voted for him!!!
here is the last pix i did, got a little more done since this but i am still waiting on the right fuel taps and a venting fuel cap.
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DUDE!!! that is so awesome! i wonder how it would look with ape hangers!?!?!
what kind of pipes are you going to put on it? cans would probably look weird...
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apes? LOL i am not a ape hanger kind of guy, unless you are saying i sweat alot and have to keep the pits dry! LOL
i am still working on what to do with my pipes, right now the cross over is blocked off and they as long as you see. i had it out on monday and with the straight pipes it was crazy loud! when i got home my wife said she could hear me every where in twon and if i wanted to sound like a harley i should get one.
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Looking real good, Jon!
So are you thinking custom pipes might be in order? Those are getting you to a good location, but they look awful, compared to the rest of your artwork.
Or, maybe it is just because they are the aftermarket bend, instead of the BMW curve.
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Jon,
Finally figured out that my works network security is blocking your photo site, so I have not been seeing your progress for some time.
However, fired up the old steam computer from home....And, man you should be 'in business'! Better than that 'Orange County' crowd.
I would love that frame.
Steve H
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I don't think that there will be any unwanted flexing in that swingarm, either !
How do you plan to route your spark plug leads in the end ?
Very unique - you have a very creative mind and more skills with metal-forming than I will ever have !
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i am at it again but have learned from my mistakes. so i re did the back bone and seat rails a little. nice having another frame that had the nech cut off so i can still ride this one. i should have the new improved frame done early next week. i am not going to use that harly looking tank and found a honda dream tank with the chrome side panels, plus it has alot more gallons. i can then tuck alot of the stuff that was on the back bone back there again. i am also adding some gussetts on the back and replacing the rear brake arm mount with the gusset.
i have a set of mufflers that are louder than i really want but will work out nice for what i am doing. in replacing the back bone i raised it a little plus kicked the rake out 5 more degrees which will make it like a long wheel base bike with out it being on of those silly long chopper looking front ends. (chopper front end? i know its a springer ;D)
also working real hard on setting up so i can run my givi hard bags so when i take a longer trip i have more than a back pack and a tank bag.
i rode this for a month set up like a stock frame kind of cafe'd and boy did it flex. once i went to the welded seat mounts which tied the rear of the frame together boy. and i still dropped a bunch of weight on this thing even though it doesnt look like it.
steve if i can find another frame i would build you one easy, shipping would be killer though. i do have a friend that lives on that side of the pond that does stuff just like this and if you asked he could do one easy, plus the bloke is smart as a tack about this stuff, i pick his grey matter alot and bounce ideas off him just so i know my numbers are right.
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Ohmygawd! First thing I thought of was the mid-60s Honda 305 Scrambler. Just squint a little. Even the tank captures the look. Gotta visit your suggested site. Thanks for the pics. Monte
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Ohmygawd! First thing I thought of was the mid-60s Honda 305 Scrambler. Just squint a little. Even the tank captures the look. Gotta visit your suggested site. Thanks for the pics. Monte
he he...pretty rad, eh?
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1969
From http://motorclassic.gmxhome.de/start_gs.htm
which I got from http://www.restat.de/
Well, cut mine off and call me "Shorty"... It's, like, all in German! What's up with that? Great site/s but wish they had an "English" button. Dang. [smiley=cry.gif]
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All of those high-pipe boxer pictures (and other interesting ones) I have found in the (English language) "Boxer From /5" book, recently bought
from the Omega web site. I've really enjoyed reading it and checking out the "behind the scenes" stories and pictures.
http://tinyurl.com/5y6nrz
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Well, cut mine off and call me "Shorty"... It's, like, all in German! What's up with that? Great site/s but wish they had an "English" button. Dang. [smiley=cry.gif]
Think of it as a "picture book" ! ;)
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Yo Jon, check this one out too.
I like the look, personally, got that whole Triumph Tiger/BSA Scrambler thing going on. 8-)
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where'd ya find the picture, Steve?
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where'd ya find the picture, Steve?
From a Guzzi board, the pics are from the recent Slimey Crud run up in Wisconsin.
Here's a link to the thread, if you're interested.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=17804.0
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i found jeggs sells 1 3/8" stainless exhaust tubing and they also have them in mandel u bends so i my try a hand at fabbing up a whole set!!!
i have been riding to work alot and i like how the new rear set up rides and handles. i have another frame here that i have been thinking and drawing up some ideas. so i think i will go and make some improvements to this frame design with some extras that i didnt think of the first time around. being that this is already stripped down and there isnt much left but a couple of wires and the engine a engine swap would be easy if i wanted to have one look one week and another the neek. the thing to really find would be another engine!!!
so this thread may not totally end. ;D the resident mad hack saw welder may do another creation soon.
stay tuned, same bat channel, same bat time.
sorry, i am a little punch drunk, i have been working 80+ hours again. and i get some crazy ideas when i dont sleep enough.
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I think JC Whitney and Summit have it as well. I have thought about doing that as I have a spool of stainless wire for my MIG and have fixed a couple of cracks in the stainless factory mufflers on my '95 R100 with good results.
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welding stainless is pretty easy if you can weld mild well. the only thing i would say that helps alot is to purge the inside of the tube with argon. put some duct tape over the ends and run the argon in. it will make the inside joint look like you welded it on the inside and look ma no leaks!!
when you start getting into welding aluminum, cromolly and titanium is when it starts really getting harder till you do enough after that you could weld just about anything.