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General Category => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Bob_Roller on February 09, 2013, 09:17:10 AM

Title: Oilhead Oil Filter Comparison
Post by: Bob_Roller on February 09, 2013, 09:17:10 AM
A co-worker gave me 6 Bosch 72161 spin-on type oil filters, he bought an ex-police bike, '04 R1150RTP and it turned into a 'money pit' .

He got rid of the bike a few years ago and gave me these filters last summer .

I just had an oil and filter change on my oilhead a week ago .

I'm not comfortable with oil filters that aren't made for the specific application .

So, I bought an OEM BMW filter and did my oil change, today, I brought the used OEM filter and the Bosch filter into to work, to cut them apart and see if there were any differences .

First off, the OEM filter does not have the anti drain rubber flapper valve, the filter is installed vertically, so it doesn't reqiure it, the Bosch filter has the valve .

The filtering area seems to be the same, 59 pleats in the filtering media and the pleat depths are the same, now whether the filtering media is different, can't tell by visual observation .

I checked the filter bypass valves on each filter with a calibrated push-pull gauge, there's a hook on one end and a long pin on the other end, that you can use to push on an object .

The OEM filter bypass valve started moving at 10 pounds of force, the Bosch started moving at 1 pound of force .

Don't know what that translates into for oil pressure, but it's quite obvious that the Bosch will bypass quickly with cold thicker oil .

The bypass valve in the OEM filter is a rubber coated metal disc, the Bosch filter has a plastic disc . 

May want to give this some thought when choosing filters not meant for the application you're going to use them in .

I'm staying with OEM filters for the oilhead, even though they cost about 3 times as much as the Bosch filters .

Title: Re: Oilhead Oil Filter Comparison
Post by: RSMike on February 13, 2013, 01:34:32 PM
Good reminder Bob, on oil filters in general.

When you start examining the specs such as bypass pressure, like you have,  it really may be risky economics going the non-OEM filter route on any vehicle.

When I ran the R1100RS ( Why did I ever get rid of that bike?) , I always went with a BMW filter from the local dealer or a MAHLE filter from Motobins or Motorworks.

I wonder if your co-workers RT turning into a money pit had any connection with the Bosch filters?
Title: Re: Oilhead Oil Filter Comparison
Post by: Justin B. on February 19, 2013, 08:46:23 PM
Hmmm, been runnin' the Bosh in the RTP...
Title: Re: Oilhead Oil Filter Comparison
Post by: Bob_Roller on February 19, 2013, 09:50:28 PM
What Bosch part number ?

The one I 'dissected', was a 72161 .
Title: Re: Oilhead Oil Filter Comparison
Post by: Bengt_Phorqs on February 20, 2013, 09:20:45 AM
I've been running the Bosch filters almost exclusively in all my oilheads for years without any problems.  YMMV of course.
Title: Re: Oilhead Oil Filter Comparison
Post by: Bob_Roller on February 20, 2013, 10:25:16 AM
What Bosch part number filter ?
Title: Re: Oilhead Oil Filter Comparison
Post by: Bengt_Phorqs on February 21, 2013, 11:05:22 AM
Bosch 72161WS  sub no. F 00E369 832-7HH
I buy them from Beemer Boneyard, usually in the six pack.