The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2

General Category => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: stockman on August 13, 2010, 08:49:10 PM

Title: State inspection
Post by: stockman on August 13, 2010, 08:49:10 PM
I have to tell someone. I hate to give up $20 to $25 dollars to get my R65 inspected. There really is no good reason for it except to find the nitwit who would ride an unsafe motorcycle with bald tires, broken lights ..... you know what I mean. I don't begrudge anyone making a living but $5 to $10 dollars is enough for the person to come out look at the tires, brakes, lights , horn and spend 2 minutes writing down the vin number on a pad. Its not like they have to pull a wheel to see the brakes or anything. I'm tempted to take the sticker from my Vstrom and put velcro on it and switch it back and forth- I can only ride one bike at a time.

Thanks that's all I got to say about that.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on August 13, 2010, 08:56:45 PM
Try living in a State with no inspection for a while.  I get so sick of seeing cars with windows permanently replaced with plastic bags and duct tape, one brake light out of 3 working, plastic bumpers hanging off due to damage while they speed down the highway at 65mph, noisy exhaust systems with the noise coming from the front of the engine!?!


Yeah - big fun here in Indiana.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: Bob_Roller on August 13, 2010, 09:28:11 PM
Arizona has emissions testing for motorcycles in the Phoenix and Tucson metro areas .

The emissions test costs more than the yearly registration .
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: Crossrodes on August 13, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
Hey try importing a vehicle from the US to Canada.  I did it with a brand new Nissan truck in '08.  It cost over $200 for Provincial and Federal inspections.  It's a joke.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: montmil on August 14, 2010, 07:44:56 AM
I feel your pain, stockman. Really.

My 1986 VW Cabriolet will be a "legal" twenty-five year old car on January 1, 2011. At that time, the car will no longer be required to pass the Texas emissions test. It will still require an annual $12.50 safety inspection fee for the window sticker. Nice drop from the $42.50 it has been.

Both my R65s are over twenty-five years old. Both carry Texas Antique Motorcycle license plates which are valid for five years and renewable every five years for a $52.60 fee. No inspection sticker or fee required.

The little 50cc Chinese scooter -supposedly bought for wife to ride the less than one mile to her schoolhouse job- needs both the annual plate fee at $44.00 plus change and an inspection sticker for $12.50. In two years, she's never ridden it, save for the one time around the city park grounds. She retired from teaching last May after 32 years. Don't expect her to hit the roads to the mall on the little thing. I mostly ride it up to Ace Hardware.  

Still getting hammered every year for inspection and plate renewal fees for the Ford F150 and wife's Cadillac DTS.

Whatcha gonna do?

Monte

Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: Barry on August 14, 2010, 09:55:29 AM
Your inspection fees are not so bad.  Our annual Ministry of Transport (MOT) test is £30 for a motorcycle and £55 for a car.

As far as I know there is no exception for age. The test may be simpler as in maybe no emissions checks but you still pay the same.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: k_enn on August 14, 2010, 10:09:47 AM
Come to New Jersey.  We never had emissions testing for motorcycles, and just this year they did away all inspections for motorcycles.

This is part of a larger change.  Now, the only inspection that is required is a testing of cars for emissions every two years, and that test consists solely of connecting to the OBDII port and looking for any emission related codes.  No more mechanical inspections for cars, although if you get stopped for anything you can still get a ticket for anything that is wrong.  This change is expected to save the state many millions of dollars in a tight economy.

k_enn
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: Bob_Roller on August 14, 2010, 10:53:04 AM
In Arizona, passenger vehicles that don't have an OBD II test port, need to be 'driven' on a dynamometer through various speeds and loads to be tested for emissions .

They won't let you do that with a motorcycle, just an idle test .
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: Crossrodes on August 14, 2010, 11:36:22 AM
Hey guys keep the noise down.  Here on Vancouver Island we don't have annual inspections.  If our wonderful government hears that emissions testing is so wide spread they'll introduce it here too.  Anything to collect more money from the public.  Surprisingly though, we have some, but not too many absolute clunkers on the road.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: stockman on August 14, 2010, 01:18:46 PM
Well ,for as much complaining as I did I just got back from forking over the $25 bucks to the closest Harley Shop in Weare, N.H. I'm supporting a local business by staying close to my town and it was a nice.
I struck a nerve with a lot of people I see. I guess it is one way of keeping junk off the road but does it have to cost so much. I will have to find out how much of that $25 dollars that shop has to send to the state.
Well I put some new spark plug wires on it the other night  after reading something about most problems can be attributed to electrical problems before carburation. Well I have to say it is sure running nice now.
Its a beautiful day here in "The Granite State" I'm going for a ride with my now legal R65.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: Dizerens5 on August 14, 2010, 01:56:17 PM
Just out of interest - right Barry, in fact I think a vehicle will pass the test here as long as it was road legal when new (but who knows that? we all depend on finding a kindly MOT tester if we have an old vehicle!). Also - curious that in Switzerland if you own two vehicles you only need one registration, you just change over the number plates (tags) according to which one you are using at the time. After all, you can't be driving both at  the same time! Sounds odd but seems to work fine in practise.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: montmil on August 14, 2010, 02:57:07 PM
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...in Switzerland if you own two vehicles you only need one registration, you just change over the number plates (tags) according to which one you are using at the time...

Har-dee-har-har :)  Did that for some time with my R65s. Those little wing nut, red gem crack, Kentucky Go Faster, license plate dealies make it s-o-o-o easy.

Monte
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: stockman on August 14, 2010, 04:50:24 PM
Having 2 motorcycles using the inspection sticker on the one I was riding was my original thought. My wife convinced me that the cost of the fine for doing that would be more than the fee paid($25) to inspect it.
She is right. --er yes dear.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: montmil on August 14, 2010, 04:58:58 PM
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She is right. --er yes dear.

They usually are.  [smiley=beehive.gif]
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: donbmw on August 14, 2010, 05:59:40 PM
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I will have to find out how much of that $25 dollars that shop has to send to the state.

Here in Louisiana the place that do inspection don't get much of the amount that is cost.  And you still see vehicle that cannot past the inspection but have a sticker on them.

Don
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: donbmw on August 14, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
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Having 2 motorcycles using the inspection sticker on the one I was riding was my original thought. My wife convinced me that the cost of the fine for doing that would be more than the fee paid($25) to inspect it.
She is right. --er yes dear.  

I would depend on how long  you can go with out getting stopped. I went 10 years on various cars with out the inspection then got stopped. The fine was what I would have paid if I had gotten the inspection. As far as my motorcycles I have not had them inspected for about 20 years. The times that I have been stopped they have never asked for the inspection sticker. Here it does not have to been seen on the bike only carried.

Don
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: stockman on August 14, 2010, 09:50:26 PM
You see cars here in New Hampshire that you know someone just bought a sticker. But most cars here only last about 8-10 years before you start having to replace brake lines / fuel lies due to rust. Also you can't have any rusted through holes that enter the passenger area. When I say 8-10 that means with care. Personally I've had a car for 22 years, 17 yrs. and 13 yrs. but all had some rust problems somewhere and of course steel lines replaced. Fortunately I always do my own work.
But those days are coming to an end as I have some pretty fierce arthritis in my fingers . I don't have the grip strength like I did except for gripping those handle bars.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: nhmaf on August 14, 2010, 11:06:04 PM
Stockman -

I am actually happy that the motorcycle inspections fees are as low as they are (Relatively speaking).   It was only 1-2 years ago that state legislature had almost passed a bill requiring that all motorcycles to be inspected would have to be plugged into the OBDII computer diagnostic system.  Even if the bike didn't have any computer/OBDII port to connect with, the inspection centers would still have to hand-enter the motorcycle info into the computer database to issue a sticker.  This was going to raise the cost of the inspections to ~$45-55 per bike minimum, due to the cost of leases on the computer systems (if the bike shop could afford them) as well as the increased time to do the work, and a larger cut for the state's percentage of each inspection fee.  Fortunately this was killed before the shops had to buy/lease the computer equipment or get out of the inspection business early last year.   Thank gawd someone saw the silliness of it before too late.
Title: Re: State inspection
Post by: nhmaf on August 14, 2010, 11:13:12 PM
They also had a bill in process to deal with overly loud exhaust systems on vehicles licensed for road use.   There had been challenges put up to the parameters of how the sound level measurements could be performed/enforced on various outdoor environments, calibration of sound meters and issueance to police departments, etc, and so the committee had countered with a proposal that would have made it illegal to run ANYTHING other than the stock, original factory exhaust system on any road registered motorcycle.   Obviously, trying to buy NOS exhaust systems for ~30 year old motorcycles is virtually impossible - but that almost didn't stop the legislators either.

I think that insanity can be found anywhere on this planet - the only variable/determining factor is how hard one has to look.   Usually no further than the local Dept. of Motor Vehicles.. :D