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General Category => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Patrick_Krivacka on June 24, 2010, 07:39:28 AM

Title: moved bike
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on June 24, 2010, 07:39:28 AM: before I got on my bike for my fire ride yesterday, I came out to find that someone had moved it. I guess they needed a little more space to park, so they tucked it in behind the car that I was parked behind. That stuff really gets under my skin, and it only gets worse the more I think about it. I hope I never catch someone doing that, and if I do, God give me the strength to keep my cool.
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: dav on June 24, 2010, 08:54:19 AM: So your bike was parked in a parking spot, then someone comes along & decides your bike has no right to take up a parking spot all of its own. So he/she goes about moving your bike out of the way so they can park there car there >:( >:(.

Mate, i would have been fumming, seeing red, this is not right. Nobody has the right to move another persons bike. If that was me i would have deflated there rear tyes.

How could they think it would be ok to move your bike? like if you moved there car (with a forklift) so you could park there, do you think they would be ok with that?
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on June 24, 2010, 09:37:41 AM: thanks for that dav. I am more then a little pissed about it, for all of the reasons you stated.
by the time I got back to my bike there were two car spaces behind me so the person was gone. not only did they move my bike, but they did it in such a way that if there hadn't been a space behind me, then I wouldn't have been able to get out, and the person that they wedged my bike against wouldn't have either without knocking my bike over.
I think part of the reason it makes me so mad is the disrespect the people have for motorcyclist rights over here in the states. 'there just toys, so why shouldn't I move someones silly toy so I can park my car?'
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: azcycle on June 24, 2010, 03:02:35 PM: Wow. I can't imagine someone doing that... I never would. But I think it just goes to show that people in cars just don't consider motorcyclists (and bicyclists to a greater degree) to be worthy of their roads and parking lots.
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on June 24, 2010, 04:35:12 PM: There are these cameras for hunters that take a picture at a set interval. (for pre-stalking game from the comfort of your sofa...)

(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftrailcameras.net%2Fimages%2Fbushnell-trail-scout-pro-night-vision.jpg&hash=511d12236e39009620d403463fc4402e8df0f610)

I can imagine one or two of these thing, perhaps with the lens peeking out of a saddlebag, to catch them in the act.

Of course, if you get a judge that thinks motorcycles are toys, it won't get you anywhere.
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: montmil on June 24, 2010, 05:20:50 PM: Quote
...I can imagine one or two of these thing, perhaps with the lens peeking out of a saddlebag, to catch them in the act. Of course, if you get a judge that thinks motorcycles are toys, it won't get you anywhere.

I can certainly understand your anger and frustration, i-man. Some sad peeps just have a misplaced sense of entitlement. It's all about ME. Courtesy is almost a vanishing value system in many people.

But what might the actual code offense be? And might you need to play Dog the Bounty Hunter and track down the perps? Then what?

I agree that stupid is as stupid does. Or as my Texas buddy Ron White would say, "There ain't no cure for stupid."

And then there's John -Darwin_R65- who lost his laptop when it bailed out of his saddlebag. Yet a good soul found it and returned it to him.

Perhaps pity the individual that showed such a lack of respect for your personal property, but there's really nothing that can be done. I'm sorry you've had a bad experience. Take heart in the knowledge that your mother obviously raised you right.

Monte
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on June 24, 2010, 05:56:33 PM: thanks for all of the replies. I'm not sure what I'm looking for by posting this. It just really got under my skin and I suppose I just want to vent with some folks who'd understand the frustration.
I had thought of the camera thing, but I have enough on my plate without the expense of and the hassle of dealing with that. And then what to do once you have the evidence? Cops? court? lawyers? No thanks.
I think I'm going to put a sign on my bike saying, in effect, that I'm legally parked, and no one has any right to move my bike.
I was sincere when i said that I hope to never catch someone doing it, and if I do I hope I can keep my cool. I'm too old for shouting matches or, heaven forbid, a fist fight.
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Melena on June 24, 2010, 06:54:36 PM: Totally understood, I-man. I would be livid also. In fact, this makes me so mad I splutter, splutter, >:( fume! :o Oh, sorry.

I would never ever touch someone's bike. I never would have touched one before I rode a bike. It just isn't done. Maybe a sign would be good.

[size=14]Don't Touch Upon Penalty of Bad Karma![/size]
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: msbuck on June 24, 2010, 10:00:12 PM: How about a cable lock through the wheels so they CAN't move your bike? ....oh wait, they'd probably try anyway and dump it...leaving it behind in a mess. That could be worse. ::)

I like the sign idea. It would infuriate me as well. No respect.

I like Melena's sign idea. ;D
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: aussie on June 25, 2010, 04:06:55 AM: You know, many years ago I parked a former bike in front of a friend's house in a quiet sidestreet. When I came out the bike was on it's side with a broken indicator lens, stalk and mudguard. I didn't hear a thing. The car that parked behind me was nowhere to be seen. Now THAT peeved me!

The thing from your point of view i-man is more to do with - as Monte pointed out - a total lack of consideration for other people's property. It would infuriate me as well. I'd probably take a leaf from Dav's book and let down the tyres if I knew who it was...but not only two - I'd make it all four.

Having said all this though, I also have to ask....if it was a Harley that was parked where you were - would they have moved it? Me thinks not. Why? Because of the general image that is portrayed of a Harley rider - tough, mean and generally not to be messed with. Beemer riders are seen as generally considerate and nice people.
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Darwin_R65 on June 25, 2010, 04:59:56 AM: I picture a sign that says "this bike employs a dental protection device, move it and I'll knock your teeth out."
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: montmil on June 25, 2010, 07:28:10 AM: Quote
...Having said all this though, I also have to ask....if it was a Harley that was parked where you were - would they have moved it? Me thinks not. Why? Because of the general image that is portrayed of a Harley rider - tough, mean and generally not to be messed with. Beemer riders are seen as generally considerate and nice people.

This is an idea I can get wrapped around! Since we've already established the fact that these people are inconsiderate idiots, I just may stick some HD badges on the fuel tank of the R65s.

"UhOoooh, Bubba. Don't touch that motorcycle. It's a Harley!"

Monte
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on June 25, 2010, 08:53:21 AM: I'm kinda leaning towards Melena's sign idea. Now that I've had a couple of day's to cool off, I'm more inclined to be philosophical about it.
More sign idea's might be fun. so far we have melena's and darwin's representing the far end's of passive and aggressive!
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Bob_Roller on June 25, 2010, 09:21:33 AM: In legal terms, a motorcycle is considered an 'attractive nuisance', if someone sits on your unattended bike, knocks it over and damages it, believe it or not, you don't have much in the way of legal recourse to get the person to pay for damages .

I've got a co-worker that's a Ducati fanatic, his wife is an attorney, one of his bikes got knocked over by someone sitting on it, caused around $4500 damage to the carbon fiber bodywork, after all of the legal hassle his wife went through, the only reimbursement they got, was the $500 insurance deductible .

If you were thinking, gee I wonder if his insurance went up due to the claim, it did .
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: k_enn on June 25, 2010, 09:36:12 AM: I feel your pain, i-man. I really hate it when anyone messes with my bike.

While it won't prevent someone from moving the bike, an alarm may help. I have a very sensitive motion sensor alarm on my bike, and even a slight movement of the bike (e.g., starting to move it upright to take it off the side stand) will set off the audible alarm. In addition, the alarm has a wireless transmitter that sets of a small pager type device to let me know someone is messing with the bike. I guess you can't stop someone, but you can maybe scare them off and/or catch them in the act.

k_enn
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on June 25, 2010, 09:57:47 AM: Hey k_enn, do you have a link to that device? sounds interesting.
Every time i post on this subject I keep meaning to add that out of the 3 years I've been parking in this area on the street, this is the first time that anything like this has happened.
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: k_enn on June 25, 2010, 11:26:14 AM: Quote
Hey k_enn, do you have a link to that device? sounds interesting.
Every time i post on this subject I keep meaning to add that out of the 3 years I've been parking in this area on the street, this is the first time that anything like this has happened.

The alarm system is the King Cobra motorcycle alarm. I got it back in the early 1980's. I think it is discontinued, but you may still be able to find some units around. It consisted of two products. First was the basic alarm (senors, alarm unit, audible device). You might find them on Ebay or elsewhere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KING-COBRA-MOTORCYCLE-ALARM-SYSTEM-NEW-BOX-/120477742787?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c0d0876c3 The second part is the wireless pager system. That may be harder to find, but there may be a few units still around. http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/vintageeurowheels/items/King_Cobra_Pocket_Pager_for_Motorcycle_Alarm___NEW___

I am sure that there are other companies out there that make a similar product. http://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automotive-7017-Motorcycle-Paging/dp/B000GZXAEC Try googling motorcycle alarm pager.

k_enn
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: azcycle on June 25, 2010, 12:32:28 PM: Maybe you can use one of those "look but don't touch" signs that I see when I go to car shows. :)
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on June 25, 2010, 01:19:14 PM: I need to find a picture of Psycho from Stripes saying 'any of you touch my stuff, I'll kill ya'. I wonder how long it would take before someone tagged it with 'lighten up Francis'.
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: nhmaf on June 25, 2010, 01:50:54 PM: Fortunately, I've never had anyone move my bike on me, but I have often considered getting an alarm with a pager like the Gorilla or other models.

Once, I did find that someone had left half of a pizza, in a take-out box, on the seat of my motorcycle outside an Italian restaurant that I had been dining in. I brought it home and ate it for lunch the next day, and called my friends whom I'd had dinner with to thank them for it. They said "We never left a pizza on your bike - none of us even had pizza last night."..... Hmmmmm Well, at least I wasn't poisoned!!
:D
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: k_enn on June 25, 2010, 02:37:46 PM: Quote
Maybe you can use one of those "look but don't touch" signs that I see when I go to car shows. :)

Here in New Jersey, the signs read "you toucha my stuff, I breaka you face." Gotta love New Jersey, home of the mafia.

k_enn
Title: Re: moved bike
Post by: Crossrodes on June 30, 2010, 11:42:43 AM: I've had two incidents regarding my bikes.

In one of them I was on a ride to Newfoundland and was parked in a mall parking lot. When we came out there was a woman putting her 4 year old on the bike. Boy was I livid. I gave the woman a piece of my mind but put the kid back on the bike and showed him a few of the controls.

In another incident I had just parked my bike (the Goldwing) in a parking spot at a Tim Horton's (fast food outlet) when a guy in a 1 ton 4 wheel drive truck drove up and asked me...no he didn't ask, he told me to park in another spot next to another bike so he could park in my spot. I looked at where the other bike was parked and determined that there was not enough room because of the way the bike was parked so I refused. So this guy had to park another 50 feet away..he was annoyed. As my wife and I walked across the parking lot he floored his truck and took a run at us. I just stood there knowing that he would stop...he did. When I was standing in line at the restaurant the guy walked in. He was about 5 '2" but I guess he had a big ego. I told him that if he tried that again he would be negotiating with the cops about how to get in touch with a lawyer from his cell. He just shut up.