The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2

Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Jon_P on January 26, 2008, 09:58:06 PM

Title: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Jon_P on January 26, 2008, 09:58:06 PM

what the title says, where can i tap into the oil system for a cooler? i am digging in the book also to see if it says anything. pixs are also a great help!!

thanks

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: airhead on January 26, 2008, 11:27:08 PM

All you need, I'm pretty sure, is the oil filter cover and the filter, as the cover on so equipped bikes has both inlet and outlet of the cooler. From there it should only need the cooler to be mounted and plumbed.
Why are you considering one for a 65?? They are only used on the 80 & 100 GS's and 100RS/RT bikes due to the extra heat from the larger engine when worked hard, or shrouded by fairing. I see no reason to equip a 65 with one as they generally have no issues with cooling at all.

Bill..................;-)

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Danie on January 26, 2008, 11:35:31 PM

I find myself in a very hot area (during summer), and would like to install an oil cooler as well.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: airhead on January 26, 2008, 11:47:57 PM

Hmmm! How hot? I share the same latitude as you and have 40degC + temps and have never seen my oil temp dipstick go above 110deg high speed touring and 120deg in traffic situations, though I do keep a close eye on it and use a semi synth oil. As long as you are pushing air, all should be ok.

Bill..................;-)

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Justin B. on January 27, 2008, 08:52:01 AM

In addition to what Bill mentioned I also think I have read that the little "tube" the filter slips up over is a different length.  

You could also install one of the oil-pan spacers that have the built-in cooling tubes.  I have seen them sell on e-Bay for about the same as the regular "radiator" type oil cooler.  They come with a sump spacer to keep your pickup in the correct location.

I am getting ready to remove one of these from the "garage ornament" some time this winter if there's any interest...

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Danie on January 27, 2008, 10:23:02 AM

Airhead,
I have a feeling that our riding conditions might differ completely.

Commuting to work every day (48 km = 30 miles) - in peak traffic - I often find myself stuck in slow riding conditions.

 Unfortunately the national electricity grid in our country is on the brink of a total collapse, (due to a lack of skills / incompetent management) and blackouts became a reality of our lives........which means robots often does not work - causing traffic jams..........so  "pushing air" is often a bit of a problem.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: MrRiden on January 27, 2008, 11:44:57 AM

Ya know, I put this link up to answer a $2000 O ring question but I think you'll find the info for adding an oil cooler cleverly disguised within. http://www.largiader.com/tech/filters/
http://www.largiader.com/tech/filters/canister.html
The short version is "For a recessed-cover bike, all you need is the correct cover, filter, and stub pipe inside the canister".
Hope this helps!  :)
rich

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Danie on January 27, 2008, 12:07:22 PM

Appreciated.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 27, 2008, 06:31:53 PM

If you choose to install an OEM oil cooler, you can't use the oil filter cover that has the thermostatic bybass valve, it won't clear a stock right header pipe on an R65.

Instead use the oil filter cover from a mid to late '90's R100 bike, the filter cover doesn't have the bypass valve.

As mentioned the hollow tube that the oil filter goes over needs to be changed to a longer one, and you need to start using the 'long hinged' oil filter.

I believe I priced it out piecemeal, and you can save some cash if you don't buy the OEM cooler kit, the oil filter cover/thermostatic bypass valve, is the most expensive part in the kit.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Semper Gumby on January 27, 2008, 08:33:20 PM

I scored a Lockhart Kit off ebay for my cooler.  For a cooler I installed the Lockhart 500 type cooler that has the thermostat built into the the cooler.  Really helps in the summer - I'm pushing around a Luftmeister Fairing with a 26" windscreen and three oversized Givi Bags on what was originally a "Naked" bike.

But the best solution is this:

http://www.motoren-israel.com/product_info.php?info=p16_Spezialoelwannenzwischenring-25-mm-mit-Au-enfilter.html

It gets rid of the $2000 dollar o-ring and changes out the the internal filter for a spin-on external.  The oil cooler taps are on either side of the base block for the filter.  I want one!!!  If I do get this I'll sell my Lockhart kit here first.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Danie on January 28, 2008, 11:23:06 AM

Bob
If I do understand you correctly - would you be prepared to make / sell a longer hollow tube ?
If so - could you please give me a price ?

I might be able to find an R100 oil filter cover locally.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 28, 2008, 06:19:28 PM

Danie,

The longer tube (162 mm) is a BMW part, part number : 11421335387, the filter head part number is : 11421338511.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Danie on January 28, 2008, 09:31:42 PM

Thanks

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Danie on January 30, 2008, 10:52:56 AM

Hi Bob

Sorry about all the stupid questions -the longer tube : part no 11421335387 - I suppose that is also for the R100's (mid to late 90's)  ?

I just want to make 100% sure - I might get a second hand one from a local chap who advertized  spares for R100's.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 30, 2008, 11:01:43 AM

The longer tube is standard on the bikes that came from the factory with an oil cooler installed.

Also you need to start using the 'long hinged' oil filter, the part number is : 11421337575.

Title: Re: where do you tap into for a oil cooler?
Post by: Danie on January 30, 2008, 11:09:45 AM

Thank you very much for your advice - highly appreciated