The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2

General Category => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 07, 2007, 10:50:22 PM

Title: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 07, 2007, 10:50:22 PM
With all of the LS owners popping up, I thought this would be an interesting poll.

If you have more than one kleineboxer, pick the one you ride most often.

If your spouse rides the R65, make her (I mean him or her) register on the forum and do her their own voting!  ::)
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: SCJJR65 on January 08, 2007, 12:29:22 PM
Done.   I've registered me and Britta! ;)
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Ed Miller on January 08, 2007, 01:06:20 PM
I'm there.

Actually Rob, whilst you were editing, it should have been "his or her own voting!"

No Major Softy on this forum.  I bet he needs an R65.



Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: suecanada on January 09, 2007, 11:57:06 AM
Ed..you just reminded me that Boxerworks is out there..major Softie and friends..and I cannot for the life of me get registered on that forum. Tried many times and it just goes around in circles.
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Jon_P on January 09, 2007, 12:33:57 PM
i understand why the difference from the ls models, why the difference in the 78-80 model and the 81-84 model? i thought they where the same till the 84 model and that is when they switched to the r80 frame? someone please enlighten me on the difference in years.
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: nhmaf on January 09, 2007, 01:01:22 PM
The 70s model bikes use a point-type ignition control versus electronic starting in 1981.  
Also, in the 80s, we had the arrival of the black plastic air boxes instead of the metal
ones, the addition of the "pulse air" plumbing system, carb changes, and I believe, differences in the
clutch/carrier assembly, speedos, fork (?) and internal transmission changes.

I am sure some other folks here can provide a more accurate list !

Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Ed Miller on January 09, 2007, 03:09:30 PM
'81 on:  nikasil lined cylinder bores
The general trend said lighter clutch parts for '81 on?  


Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: NC Steve on January 09, 2007, 06:57:29 PM
I borrowed this, but to paraphrase...
1981:
      •       Colors: turquoise blue, red, ?
      •       Dual front disk brakes with ATE calipers.
      •       Hundreds of small improvements to all BMW boxers, from which  the R65 benefitted as well. Major improvements:
      [ch9702]       Electronic ignition
      [ch9702]       40% lighter flywheel (revs & shifts easier)
      [ch9702]       Nikasil lining in cylinders
      [ch9702]       Plastic airbox & "pure air" system (allows richening of carburetion while still meeting emissions regulations)
      [ch9702]       Larger valves (by 2mm each)
      [ch9702]       Additional crossover pipe in exhaust
      [ch9702]       Larger oil pan (increases oil capacity by .2 quart)
      [ch9702]       More cushioning in driveshaft  Y throttle cable with splitter instead of two cables.  (Many don't consider this an improvement.)

1982:
      •       R65LS introduced.
      •       Slight carburetion changes (idle jet & needle position) to all R65s.
      •       Non-LS R65s all have a single front disk brake, with ATE caliper.
      •       R65LS gets the dual front disk brakes, with Italian Brembo calipers. (See r65ls.faq)

1983:
      •       Colors: turquoise, black, ?
      •       Every year, BMW fiddled with the needle position and idle jet on the carburetors, but these bikes remained basically the same.

1984:
 Last year of R65LS and dual-shock R65 model.
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Isaac on January 10, 2007, 06:08:01 PM
I tried www.r65.faq and got nada.  :'(
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: NC Steve on January 10, 2007, 06:47:13 PM
Let me PM you the whole link, which this was just an excerpt from.
It's not earth-shaking info, but does give a pretty good overall view of the R65s by year.

Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 10, 2007, 10:08:25 PM
The link:

http://www.roadkill.com/~davet/moto/R65.faq.html
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: msbuck on January 15, 2007, 10:25:55 AM
Well I see the "R65 1981-1984" is half of the responses so far.  I'm a little surprised by that.  Should I be??

Come on folks, vote today!!
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 15, 2007, 01:55:15 PM
I guess we would have to compare them to the quantities imported/manufactured, but I am leaving for work in 8 minutes, so it will have to be left for someone else. :)
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Melena on January 15, 2007, 11:05:45 PM
I voted early on.  I like the way this gives you the results as soon as you vote and then doesn't bring up the ballot again.  Can't vote twice.   ;)

I wanted to wait to comment until there was enough votes in.  I was surprised about the one R45 until I remembered that someone from (I forgot which country, I'm sorry) Europe has one and that there are many more of them in Europe than here in the US and Canada.  Isn't there anyone out there from this side of the pond with an R45?  

But why so many more 81 - 84 R65's?  I thought there were more with the older models.  Maybe they just haven't voted yet.  There are 80 members now.
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 16, 2007, 02:47:09 AM
I just wish I had thought initially to encourage those who voted to also post a reply in the thread.  It would have been interesting to know who voted and what they ride.
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: willr65 on January 16, 2007, 02:03:21 PM
Little me voted.  ;D

I've an 82 European spec (Well I do live in England) R65 that now sports an R90S cockpit fairing.
Title: my thought on the difference between the bikes
Post by: scottyintex on January 16, 2007, 02:23:17 PM
 I think the major difference in the bikes was that the 79-80 models have 45 horse power...emission controls were added in 1980 and cut into the power a bit. Thus in 1981 the hp was jumped to 50 to compensate for the change. So the 81 up bikes have a little bit more zoom, at least over the 1980 and possibly the 1979.
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 16, 2007, 03:23:29 PM
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I just wish I had thought initially to encourage those who voted to also post a reply in the thread.  It would have been interesting to know who voted and what they ride.
Well , I voted, I have an '81 R65, serial number : WBM036405B6385009,  azure blue (paint code 158) I am the original owner, bike was purchased from Abt BMW in Chicago , January 1981. Price was $3295 US, plus all of the add on charges came to a grand total of $3641.38 US. Some of the best money I ever spent on a vehicle. I just turned over 78,000 miles (126,000 km.) about 3 weeks ago. We need to get everybody here at R65.org, to make an entry on the R65 Registry, and mention also, that this site exists. May help to increase  the membership here, and you can never have too many R65 enthusiasts, helping each other out with their bikes issues.
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: NC Steve on January 16, 2007, 03:47:47 PM
I didn't make an entry here per se, but I did vote too.
1984 R65, don't have the paint code handy, so I'll just call it "Justin Blue"  ;)
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Rev._Eddie on January 17, 2007, 09:49:46 AM
Hey Steve,

The blue color on your bike in the photo is very close to BMW's Azure Blue
(name translated and sold as Niger Blue in some countries).
It's close enough that most folks probably wouldn't notice the
difference if it had the pinstripe on it.
BMW paint code is 158.
BMW color code is 501.

It was used extensively on the '83 & '84 R65's.


Eddie


Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: NC Steve on January 17, 2007, 11:07:16 AM
Hi Eddie,

Yeah, technically it's pretty much a match for BMW's azure blue, but Justin painted the tank so I'm giving him the credit. ;)
According to him, "Steve, it's actually DuPont Hot Hues #741901 - Blue Mood... "
I just think of it as good ol' Beemer Blue myself...

Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Semper Gumby on January 19, 2007, 12:40:37 AM
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i understand why the difference from the ls models, why the difference in the 78-80 model and the 81-84 model? i thought they where the same till the 84 model and that is when they switched to the r80 frame? someone please enlighten me on the difference in years.

Can you say "Clutch".  I new you could... ;)  Cast iron vs. Nikasil cylinders.  Square air box  vs round(1979 only).  Leaner jetting with dome top carbs on the 81+ vs flat tops on the 1979 and 80s.  ATE brakes vs Brembos.  LWB frame, k75 front end, mono shock, "y"wheels 1985 and up.  Nickle plated input splines?  Let me count the ways...
Title: Re: What kind of R45/R65/R65LS do you have?
Post by: Sspandra on January 19, 2007, 07:24:15 AM
I have a 82 R65LS. Red with wight wheels, Paribelum windshild and a rear rack.
Spencer