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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: mrclubike on January 14, 2018, 05:58:18 PM

Title: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 14, 2018, 05:58:18 PM
One of the reasons I got an Airhead is that they are very straight forward in design
Making them easy to work on and easily modified
That being said I  like to tinker and modify my R65
(but i do not do any thing that cant be reversed)

I was rooting around and found the Leg Guards made for the Ural
I am going to get a set and mount them up

I may have to make some more substantial mounting brackets 

Has any one else done this or used any parts from the other Air Head clones 

Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: donbmw on January 14, 2018, 06:21:09 PM
The existing should be just fine. I have those on my Ural and they are pretty solid on mounting.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 14, 2018, 07:22:01 PM
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The existing should be just fine. I have those on my Ural and they are pretty solid on mounting.

Thanks that is good to know
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Justin B. on January 14, 2018, 10:05:15 PM
I think Rob V. had a pair of leg-guards on his but not sure who made 'em.  Maybe he'll chime in...
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 15, 2018, 06:11:07 PM
Mine - made by Heinrich of Germany, and near impossible to get in the US.  Still manufactured, I believe.
None are made for the shape of the R65 tank, and I had to reshape mine a bit.

Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 15, 2018, 06:22:19 PM
The last three images are for those of you who wish to make your own clamps!
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 15, 2018, 06:24:35 PM
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Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 15, 2018, 08:21:05 PM
Those are very nice looking guards
but like you said hard to find and pricey

If I have to modify or make my own mounting hardware
I will make it like the Heinrich
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 19, 2018, 07:47:08 PM
got the guards mounted up
I am a little concerned about the air being blocked from the cylinders
I only had to bend them out a bit to clear the gas tank
I may modify the clamps to prevent them from rotating on the tubes
I have not had a chance to ride it yet but will this weekend and report back
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: donbmw on January 19, 2018, 08:36:16 PM
New ones come two strips of rubber the width of the clamps 1/16 thinks. That keeps them from turning.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 19, 2018, 08:48:31 PM
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New ones come two strips of rubber the width of the clamps 1/16 thinks. That keeps them from turning.

Yes it has them installed but they may still rotate
i will just have to ride it and see

Over all the quality is good and the looks of them do match the OEM BMW hand guards
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: donbmw on January 20, 2018, 12:25:14 PM
Frame tubes must me smaller.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: BPT on January 20, 2018, 12:51:57 PM
Are you all using these for wind?
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on January 20, 2018, 01:11:56 PM
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Are you all using these for wind?
For me, it was wind protection in cold weather, and cool factor from rarity in the U.S., anytime.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: BPT on January 20, 2018, 03:23:50 PM
Cool, thanks. I might have to look into those to match the handguards.  I don't do much super cold weather riding but being able to block some wind without the full fairing would be nice.

And they're not too obtrusive either.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: wilcom on January 20, 2018, 03:37:15 PM
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cool factor from rarity in the U.S.,

Major cool factor!!!

I have a pin up of the guards on the wall right next to Rita Hayworth. I found a pair that had been on ebay euro for months without selling and I messaged her to see if she still had them? She did  but decided to keep them because she had gotten another Airhead.....arrrrrgh......... timing is everything.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 20, 2018, 07:39:49 PM
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Are you all using these for wind?
yes ;D
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 21, 2018, 07:47:00 PM
Road 150 miles today
They worked very well and did not rotate on the down tube
blocked about 75% of the wind off of my legs
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 21, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
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The existing should be just fine. I have those on my Ural and they are pretty solid on mounting.

Just for future reference what is the OD of the down tubes on a Ural
The R65 is 32.18 mm (1.267 inches)
The clamps had to tightened until it closed all the way 
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: BPT on January 21, 2018, 08:39:26 PM
Thanks for the report MrClubike.  And it sounds like this all fit straight off the rack, no need to modify the guards or the hardware after all?

Were these for a particular Ural?  I'm not sure how much variation there is between their models.  But these would be good to know about if they were a good fit.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: donbmw on January 21, 2018, 08:44:07 PM
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The existing should be just fine. I have those on my Ural and they are pretty solid on mounting.

Just for future reference what is the OD of the down tubes on a Ural
The R65 is 32.18 mm (1.267 inches)
The clamps had to tightened until it closed all the way 

Will measure the down tubes tomorrow and get back to you.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 21, 2018, 10:51:37 PM
I only found one part number for the Ural
I don't think they have changed the frames enough to make different  ones

I did open up the angle on the brackets to make them angle out but that was it

I may make stronger bracket just so I can mount a water bottle cage on the back of them
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: donbmw on January 22, 2018, 12:48:56 PM
The Ural down tubes are 1 3/8. Only one style other sometimes you an find older metal leg guards.

Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Tony Smith on January 22, 2018, 02:26:12 PM
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I may make stronger bracket just so I can mount a water bottle cage on the back of them

That is a bloody good idea!
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 27, 2018, 09:27:51 AM
The original Ural brackets worked good  with some tweaking

I just liked the looks and strength of the Heinrich brackets so I made up a set

And I moved them back closer to my legs

I am sure the Ural brackets would be safer in a crash (more forgiving)
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on January 27, 2018, 09:36:32 AM
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The Ural down tubes are 1 3/8. Only one style other sometimes you an find older metal leg guards.


That explains why the clamps have to be closed all the way to grip the tubes
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on February 05, 2018, 08:04:37 PM
Your braces look like a nice improvement.  Good job!
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: BPT on February 06, 2018, 06:20:51 AM
Nice MrClubike.  Did you fabricate those completely from scratch or did you have the parts and welded them together?

Those brackets look familiar but I can't remember where I've seen them before.
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on February 06, 2018, 07:22:04 PM
Made them Completely from scratch
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on February 07, 2018, 03:03:31 PM
Yes, Heinrich's are on the expensive side:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bmw-Heinrich-Fiberglass-Leg-Shields-for-Airheads-R60-R75-R80-maybe-R90-100/273055215299?hash=item3f935beec3:g:144AAOSwMYRadyP6
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: BPT on February 07, 2018, 03:33:24 PM
Kudos to you, MrClu. good work then.  It was the tubular clamps that looked familiar, I thought I'd seen a similar shape somewhere.  Maybe plumbing, conduit, outdoor awnings?   I can't remember......
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: wilcom on February 07, 2018, 04:08:48 PM
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Yes, Heinrich's are on the expensive side:

My 84LS would look bitch'n with those painted to match

I'm checking the postage she will charge to the USA. Probably be as much as the darn item  :'(
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on February 07, 2018, 06:59:53 PM
The clamps are made from 1 1/4 X 1/8  steel strap wrapped around a socket then welded together with the tubes for the bolts and then cut apart
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on February 07, 2018, 07:05:01 PM
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Yes, Heinrich's are on the expensive side:

My 84LS would look bitch'n with those painted to match

I'm checking the postage she will charge to the USA. Probably be as much as the darn item  :'(

They look good but that black edging just looks like crap
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: wilcom on February 07, 2018, 07:10:34 PM

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They look good but that black edging just looks like crap
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Just looks like some aftermarket edging that was put on and not very well  ;D
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: wilcom on February 08, 2018, 10:53:31 AM
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I'm checking the postage she will charge to the USA. Probably be as much as the darn item 

$80 US to the left coast. Not as bad as I thought it might have been. Kinda bulky to pack

Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: mrclubike on February 08, 2018, 08:00:15 PM
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I'm checking the postage she will charge to the USA. Probably be as much as the darn item 

$80 US to the left coast. Not as bad as I thought it might have been. Kinda bulky to pack

That really isn't bad
Title: Re: Ural parts & accessories that fit modern airhead
Post by: wilcom on February 09, 2018, 08:55:33 AM
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I'm checking the postage she will charge to the USA. Probably be as much as the darn item   

$80 US to the left coast. Not as bad as I thought it might have been. Kinda bulky to pack

That really isn't bad
                   
I sure like those but I think it's just too much for me to toss away......it would ruin a $400 dollar bill if the price doesn't go up. I think I'll pass and I will congratulate myself the next time I reach into my pocket for money and find I still have some.  ;D