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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Adrian on November 12, 2017, 11:17:22 PM

Title: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: Adrian on November 12, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
Hi - I have a 1984 R65 twin rear shock.
I have been considering fitting one of these plates once the reconditioned/modified motor has been run in.
I have two questions .......

Can it be fitted without the need to lift or remove the motor from the frame?

Once fitted is there enough clearance for the centre stand?

Thanks ......
Title: Re: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: Tony Smith on November 13, 2017, 01:26:17 AM
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Hi - I have a 1984 R65 twin rear shock.
I have been considering fitting one of these plates once the reconditioned/modified motor has been run in.
I have two questions .......

Can it be fitted without the need to lift or remove the motor from the frame?

Once fitted is there enough clearance for the centre stand?

Thanks ......

1/ yes all of the extended sumps I've seen are fitted in place off the original sump therefore they can be fitted with the engine in the frame.

2/. Ask the manufacturer, later tonight or tomorrow I'll have a look at the centre stand clearance on mine and give you an idea how much room you have to play with.

Question from me - why? You already have a big sump engine and more oil is only going to take longer to heat up and cost more at oil change time.  I would need soem very serious convincing that the spin-on filter is well enough plumbed into the system to be a viable replacement for the OEM one, if it said be intended to work in conjunction with the OEM filter my questions are:
1/. Does the manufacturer guarantee there is no pressure drop anywhere.
2/. Does the manufacturer provide information as to the testing they did and are they prepared to warrant against engine damage caused by fitted the thing?

Title: Re: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: wilcom on November 13, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
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1/ yes all of the extended sumps I've seen are fitted in place off the original sump therefore they can be fitted with the engine in the frame.

http://www.motoren-israel.com/Shop/Oil-pan-Distance-rings/Oil-pan-distance-ring-with-baffles-30-mm::589.html



They do make an extension ring without the filter but they state
"The fitting may lead to modification being required to the centre stand for certain models."


I have the unit you pictured on my shelf, new, waiting to go on my bike some day. I purchased it right after the internet scared the B-Jesus out of me with all the talk about the $2000  "O" ring.
Title: Re: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: Adrian on November 13, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Okay thanks guys - I'm still thinking about it. As well as maybe an oil cooler instead of this device. As it gets very hot here in South Australia and all around it seems like a choice idea. I guess I just like tinkering lol lol
Title: Re: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: Justin B. on November 13, 2017, 10:26:16 PM
I have a plate laying around somewhere like wilcom's except it has "cool tubes" running through it...
Title: Re: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: mrclubike on November 13, 2017, 10:47:49 PM
You can read my thread on the oil pan extension and it explains what I had to do to get it to fit 
Title: Re: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: Tony Smith on November 14, 2017, 12:32:26 AM
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Okay thanks guys - I'm still thinking about it. As well as maybe an oil cooler instead of this device. As it gets very hot here in South Australia and all around it seems like a choice idea. I guess I just like tinkering lol lol

A long time ago when my R100 was new (1978) I realized that there wasn't much oil in it and that it got very, very hot. I always meant to do something about it, but by the time I bought a 2nd hand oil cooler kit I couldn't be bothered fitting it. You see the most spectacular area of automotive engineering development over recent years (within the last 3 decades) has been in engine oil.  I've had the oil that comes out of the R100 analysed a couple of times and the report was always that the oil was fit for continued service. Save yourself the money and run Penrite 20W/60.
Title: Re: Sump Extension Plate
Post by: Justin B. on November 14, 2017, 10:47:17 AM
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You can read my thread on the oil pan extension and it explains what I had to do to get it to fitĀ 

IIRC the only/main issue I had with this item was the hooks for the center-stand springs had to be modified to get them to clear...