The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2

Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Bill Parker on October 31, 2016, 12:47:58 PM

Title: Valve guide question
Post by: Bill Parker on October 31, 2016, 12:47:58 PM
I'm rejuvenating the top end on a 1983 R65 with 63,000 mi. The valves, pistons, etc. look good, but I want to remove the valves to clean the backsides and lap them and their seats before reassembly. The exhaust valves slide easily out of the guides, but the intakes seem to get very tight (stuck requiring some force to remove) when the keeper notches enter the top of the guides. I haven't forced them yet, but can I press them out or do I need to remove material around the keeper notches (600 grit wet&dry ?) before removing them?

Thanks

Mr. Bill
Title: Re: Valve guide question
Post by: Tony Smith on October 31, 2016, 03:43:11 PM
Ok, that is sure sign that all is not well with those intake valves - genuine BMW valves do not deform the collet area and most decent aftermarket ones don't either.

Fair bet that those valves are no longer rotating properly. For the relatively small cost involved I would junk the valves and replace them with either OEM or good quality replacements. If the guides show any sign of wear you have two choices - replace them which is expensive or have them k-lined which results in a guide wearing surface that lasts on a par with new guides but which can easily be replaced (by a new insert) on a number of occasions.

I'd also get a professional opinion as to whether or not your collets are still OK, they probably will be providing some dumb-ass didn't grind them down to fit not quite correct replacement valves.
Title: Re: Valve guide question
Post by: Bill Parker on November 07, 2016, 04:52:23 PM
Well, replacing valves, guides and springs. Better safe than sorry. Thanks.

Mr bill
Title: Re: Valve guide question
Post by: georgesgiralt on November 08, 2016, 12:02:40 AM
Do not overlook the collets. Buy BMW collets. They are devised to let the valve spin during movement. This makes a difference.
Title: Re: Valve guide question
Post by: nhmaf on November 08, 2016, 10:07:30 PM
Well, it will cost some more, but you should have good peace of mind and confidence in the reliability of the refurbished heads after this!