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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 08:19:23 AM

Title: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 08:19:23 AM
Can anybody advise please?

My Clymer manual doesn't have this level of detail, I have put a link to a Dropbox to view the image.

Thanks in advance

Chris

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fb5nads979ywka/Photo%2028-03-2016%2C%2014%2013%2022.jpg?dl=0
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: montmil on March 28, 2016, 08:30:46 AM
For me, the link is not working. What's your concern/issue/question re: the switch?
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 08:52:49 AM
Hi Monte,

Not sure how to remove it, it's smooth all around with no obvious place to use a wrench, I'll try a photo but have no way to resize until I get into the office tomorrow!!!!!

Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
Sorry about the size of the image folks!!!!!
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: georgesgiralt on March 28, 2016, 08:56:10 AM
Hello !
This little b... is screwed in place. Given it has not been moved since a very long time ago, it may be stuck.
The thread is normal so unscrew turning anti-clockwise.
You can still get new one at BMW. So do not worry too much if you destroy it.
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 09:17:56 AM
Thanks G,

It broke, but is out...

Thanks Guys
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: Matt Chapter on March 28, 2016, 10:50:16 AM
My front brake switch had gone bad, when I went to replace it, the old one ended up destroyed in the removal process.  Think I had ordered the replacement from motobins, prior to removal so everything worked out nicely.  And now the brake light works when the front brake is activated, so that's a plus.
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 11:17:54 AM
Thanks All,

Next problem, how do I remove the light switch from the plastic housing?

Again, sorry for image size[ch129299]

Thanks
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: georgesgiralt on March 28, 2016, 11:57:19 AM
You have to remove the yellow switch from outside. It is clipsed onto the switch. So you have to pull straight.
Then, removing the innards is possible. But not so  easy....
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 12:59:09 PM
Thanks G,

I suspected as much, but wanted to check first, I don't want to break that switch...

Thanks
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: montmil on March 28, 2016, 03:10:45 PM
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I suspected as much, but wanted to check first, I don't want to break that switch...

Weren't you thinking the same thing about that brake light switch?  [smiley=whistling.gif]
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 28, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
I was Monte,

But it just seemed a little agricultural...
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: Tony Smith on March 28, 2016, 06:05:14 PM
Depending on the mix-n-match you have for brake levers you may find that the new switch from Motobins has insufficient length to actually be operated by lever movement - meaning your brake light is on permanently.

The ink tube of a biro makes a perfect extension.


(I suspect that the brake perch was replaced by the MPO at some stage and that he used the old 78~79 part. This results in an overly "low" brake lever if you use the later model brake lever. The earlier "dogleg" lever has a different profile for actuating the brake switch and requires an extension. The brake switch for the earlier perch is NLA.
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 29, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Thanks for the additional info Tony, that is very helpful!

I am on Motobins website and can see the switch. I do appear to have a mix/match assortment of levers, they are different from each other.

It would seem I have some up to 1980 parts and then some later 81 on parts. The Bike was manufactured January 7th 1981, so maybe some older parts were available from the bin or else the PO fitted them?

Anyway, I continue on. I have found an excellent company in the UK who are going to try and replicate the graphics on both sides as mine have faded badly, I post up as soon as I have them finished.
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: Tony Smith on March 29, 2016, 03:23:09 PM
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Thanks for the additional info Tony, that is very helpful!

I am on Motobins website and can see the switch. I do appear to have a mix/match assortment of levers, they are different from each other.

It would seem I have some up to 1980 parts and then some later 81 on parts. The Bike was manufactured January 7th 1981, so maybe some older parts were available from the bin or else the PO fitted them?

Anyway, I continue on. I have found an excellent company in the UK who are going to try and replicate the graphics on both sides as mine have faded badly, I post up as soon as I have them finished.


For what it is worth I prefer the earlier brake/clutch levers as they  were made by Magura and not an anonymous contractor - it is a well known fact that you can straighten Magura levers more times than any other lever. :-)

When you say "graphics" do you mean the badges (which are available brand new from Bins) or the "R-65" stickers? If the stickers there is a mob in England who have them quite cheaply - if you want I can dredge up the packet mine are still in and post the details.


FWIIW mine are still in their packet because even brand new the R65 stickers were tacky and short-lived I plan to put mine on when/if I decide to sell.
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 29, 2016, 04:09:04 PM
Tony,

Sorry I meant the graphics surrounding the handlebar switchgear, I am not sure whether to powder coat the 'block' or paint them.

I may try and paint them first to see how they turn out, if not good, I will PC.

Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: montmil on March 30, 2016, 08:34:39 AM
Across The Pond, over here in the great Republic of Tejas, a rattle can of Satin Black -neither flat nor gloss- brought my R100S's switch bodies to as-new looking.

Personally, with operating three Airheads for many years, I know what all the switch gear does. I'm also guilty of removing any and all of those annoying "safety" stickers. It's Texas. Call me a rebel.
Title: Re: Removing Handlebar Stoplight Switch
Post by: clonmore1 on March 30, 2016, 05:06:19 PM
Monte, it may yet come to that...

All I can do is try and see what happens!