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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Bob_Roller on January 05, 2015, 06:48:01 PM

Title: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 05, 2015, 06:48:01 PM
Not a BMW application, but seeing as the BMW's have the same fuse, I thought this would be well placed in the R65 section .
My '87 Guzzi had given me problems with starter operation since I got the bike back on the road about 2 years ago .
Replaced the starter relay, had the ignition switch go bad and replaced it, that seemed to cure the problem for about a year .
The problem, was pressing the starter button and nothing would happen, volt meter on the bike showed no drop when the button was pressed .
Checked the switch and wiring and found no issues  .
Last Thursday morning, I was going to take the Guzzi to work, I only take it to work on holidays and weekends, due to collector insurance on the bike, not supposed to take it to work, only to shows, etc .... .
Got the bike out and pressed the starter button, no starter operation and no voltage drop on the bikes volt meter, this time, it stayed ' broken ', so I could do some trouble shooting .
Did a quick check when I got home on Thursday, did a quick check for voltage at the starter relay found none .
Worked double shifts on Friday and Saturday, dead tired on Sunday, so nothing got accomplished .
Got back to it this afternoon, opened the starter switch, no voltage to the switch .
Checked the fuse and it looked good but on closer inspection, I found that the conductor of the fuse had been kinked / creased and had broken in two .
Replaced the fuse and the starter worked like it should .
I'm now looking for a replacement 4 fuse box for the bike .
Title: Re: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: Adrian on January 06, 2015, 01:03:48 AM
Actually that's really interesting - this is the second post about replacing the fuse box - I was considering it but only vaguely - now I will definitely replace mine once the rebuild gets under way again. Do you have a recommendation for a particular type of box to use - thanks ..... Adrian
Title: Re: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 06, 2015, 09:04:20 AM
Only caution I have about replacement fuse boxes, is that some require a relay to power the fuse box, complicates things when you don't have to .
I found out yesterday, that there is a correct way to install these fuses .
To remove them, make sure the conductor of the fuse is visible to you, on installation, make sure the conductor is away from you .
If you install the fuse with the conductor visible to you, you force the conductor off of the fuse and kink it where it narrows down .
I did this when I installed the new fuse .
Title: Re: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: montmil on January 06, 2015, 09:21:39 AM
Bob, Have you posted your "Wonky Fuse" concerns over on the Guzzi site? Betcha somebody has already answered your concern and done did an updated fuze boxer.
Title: Re: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 06, 2015, 11:59:18 AM
Did a little online search for fuse box / blocks at work today, slow day !!!!
Found a 5 circuit box at a chain auto parts store, O'Reilly's, don't know how much coverage they have in the US, but the Phoenix area has quite a few stores .

 http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/LIT3/350417BP.oap?ck=Search_350417bp_-1_2956&keyword=350417bp

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/LIT3/350418BP.oap?ck=Search_350418bp_-1_2956&keyword=350418bp

The first block has the terminals coming out the side, the second has the terminals on the bottom side .
I've got two extra circuits, so I went with a five circuit box .

If you don't have any extra circuits and want a simple installation, inline fuse holders will work as well .

Don't know what's available in your area in Australia, I'm sure they shouldn't be difficult, to locate locally for you .
Title: Re: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: Adrian on January 07, 2015, 12:11:03 AM
Okay thanks Bob ........
Title: Re: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: Tony Smith on January 07, 2015, 07:48:52 AM
http://www.eachbuyer.com/12v-4-way-car-truck-automotive-blade-fuse-box-holder-circuit-ato-atc-p281073.html

I have one of these, and when my blade fuse replacement circuit breakers arrive from china, I'll report back on those too
Title: Re: 'Wonky ' Fuse
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 08, 2015, 10:25:27 AM
I went to the auto parts store after work yesterday and they had the fuse box in stock, kinda surprised me .
It also looks like I can bolt it right on in place of the OEM fuse box .
Just need to cut the wires off of the original and crimp some connectors on the wires and plug them into the new box .