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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Bill Conquest on January 20, 2012, 11:57:43 AM

Title: side stand failure
Post by: Bill Conquest on January 20, 2012, 11:57:43 AM
Hi - My '79 r65 just suffered massive side stand failure - it wemt down pretty hard on some rocks it was parked next to. Luckily not too much damage.I need to replace a.s.a.p. & am wondering if the Brown sidestand is a good alternative?
Thanks, Bill
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Barry on January 20, 2012, 12:08:13 PM
I don't have one but there are lots of positive comments around about the Brown side stand.

How exactly did your stand fail ?
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Bill Conquest on January 20, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
It had been getting a bit loose... i'd propped it on a small rock to keep the bike more upright & while away it slipped off the rock. I guess the shock of that caused the ear on the top to bend & all the springs & pieces just blew off....bike fell! Have been quoted $129.00 for a Brown sidestand from boxerworks..any thoughts on that as a replacement?
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: suecanada on January 20, 2012, 02:10:29 PM
I got the Brown sidestand from Boxerworks while they were at the RA rally at the Biltmore estate in Asheville, NC. Best purchase I have made for LRB in a long while! Get it...you will never regret the money!
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: donbmw on January 20, 2012, 05:28:19 PM
I have had Brown side stands for almost as long as I have had my bikes.

Don
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 20, 2012, 05:48:57 PM
I've never heard anybody having any issues with a Brown side stand .

Clamp it to the frame tube and pretty much forget about it !!!!
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Bill Conquest on January 20, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
Thanks everyone - talked to Nathan at Boxerworks & he is checking to see if he has the one specific to our bikes & he seems to have the best price.
Bill
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Julio A. on January 20, 2012, 09:29:17 PM
I like the brown sidestands. I have one installed. Way way better than the stock.

My only qualm is that the side stand hits my muffler. But maybe that's just me, my muffler isn't stock.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: suecanada on January 20, 2012, 09:57:31 PM
Mine hit the black muffler too until I had a bit of metal welded onto the stand to stop it moving that far.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: R65Guy on January 20, 2012, 10:30:28 PM
I put a Surefoot on my R65.  Purchased from Motobins and delivered to my door for about the same price as the Brown (perhaps a bit less).  Two things about the Surefoot I liked better was the larger flat foot and the adjustable screw stop to keep it from hitting your muffler.  They are both a great improvement over the stock one.
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motobins.co.uk%2Flibrary%2F91694.jpg&hash=61c6fcda8d9b149cefb978762c79b9d9e8c7dda8)
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: montmil on January 21, 2012, 09:19:35 AM
R65Guy, Excellent review of the Surefoot. Thank you.

Monte
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: suecanada on January 21, 2012, 12:53:59 PM
Surefoot sounds like the bees knees!
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Ed Miller on January 23, 2012, 05:48:53 PM
I like the Surefoot on mine, also from Motobins.

Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: steve hawkins on January 24, 2012, 09:55:37 AM
I put a surefoot on mine after my side stand collapsed.  Still have not repaired the damage, but the new stand is great - and my R100 came with one fitted : )

Rev. Light
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Dizerens5 on January 24, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
I have a Surefoot on my 79, it's really good.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Bill Conquest on January 31, 2012, 12:28:56 AM
Just recieved my Brown sidestand from Nathan at Boxerworks.. installed it & it's so much better than the original..no more rocks or other props underneath!
Bill
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Bob_Roller on January 31, 2012, 07:18:52 AM
Any clearance issues with the exhaust system ?
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Bill Conquest on February 03, 2012, 12:19:19 AM
Not with the exhaust..it hits my sidestand,the part that pushes it down, so I may modify that a bit.but the bike sits up nicely now.
Bill
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: 79beem on February 11, 2012, 06:45:36 AM
I Have a surefoot soon to be delivered ( bike leans like a sinking ship ).
Is it an easy fit?
Do I have to remove the exhaust to remove original stand?
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Barry on February 11, 2012, 08:54:45 AM
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Do I have to remove the exhaust to remove original stand?  

Not on a 79.  Remove the springs and slide the pivot cover away until the pin drops out. It's an odd arrangement there are no bolt or screw fixings of any description involved until the 80 and later models.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: 79beem on February 22, 2012, 06:52:36 AM
Fitted my new surefoot (adjustable leg type).

A few comments -

Its a huge improvement.

Its huge.

It has a great big foot which deals well with all kinds on terrain.

I no longer walk away wondering if this is "The day".

I can fill the tank on the side stand :D

It sits between the exhaust and forward / rear foot pegs and you have to push it out from behind the forward peg.

You cant put the center stand down with the side stand retracted.
 
It needed a wee bit of tweaking to fit.

 I had to bend down top of "C" section/frame aligner? at the front of the assembly to stop it fowling on the engine casing.
Not difficult to do but worth watching out for .

I also had to change the hex head stop screw to a round allen screw and remove the lock nut as both fowled on weld preventing necessary adjustment to stop the stand from hitting the muffler. I have an after market Staintune.

Again,its a huge improvement.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Milo_357 on February 22, 2012, 12:55:12 PM
Where can I buy one in the States?
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Ed Miller on February 22, 2012, 01:34:19 PM
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Where can I buy one in the States?

I got mine from Motobins in England.  With shipping it was a little over a hundred bucks.  I don't remember what the money exchange rate was.

Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: Lucky_Lou on February 22, 2012, 02:42:01 PM
Motobins part number 91694 currenty £70 ($105ish) plus carrage
http://www.motobins.co.uk/
Lou
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: awaffa2003 on February 22, 2012, 09:39:28 PM
that's one part of my bike that i've never had much confidence in...my sidestand is quite wobbly and it's what i use 100% of the time now since i removed my center stand. will mine eventually snap also??
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: steve hawkins on February 23, 2012, 02:38:44 AM
Do it before the old one fails.  I have some nice dents and scratches on my R65 cafer racer tank as a result of such a failure.  It collapsed and fell against some bikes in the garage.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: montmil on February 23, 2012, 08:50:48 AM
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that's one part of my bike that i've never had much confidence in...my sidestand is quite wobbly and it's what i use 100% of the time now since i removed my center stand. will mine eventually snap also??

Good Golly, Miss Molly look who's back! How be you, awaffa? Still got the 65er?
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: awaffa2003 on February 23, 2012, 06:26:18 PM
Monte! I'm back from the dead man lol. I've been good though. Still got the 65 and added a 89 K100RS to the collection. Picked that bad boy up for $700 with 75K on it :)
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: 79beem on February 24, 2012, 04:37:50 PM
Got mine from Uk but from motorworks.

Link below should zap you straight to the stand page.

Worth just having a look at what they have in their new parts dept. seems they have everything and more.
 
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/Parts.php?T=5&NU=15&M=20&Ct=MA&SbCt=BA_15_20_MA_45
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: montmil on February 24, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
Unfortunately, Motorworks does not ship to the USofA.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: 79beem on February 24, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
Really? How so? US / Aus what the diff? They are missing out on a big market.
Title: Re: side stand failure
Post by: awaffa2003 on February 24, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
yeah they are, so go with motobins. http://www.motobins.co.uk/bmw-parts.php?model=R%20Series%202%20valve%20Twin frame, then sidestands