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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Tony_T on April 12, 2011, 06:06:50 PM

Title: R45 vs R65
Post by: Tony_T on April 12, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Hi all,
I'm hoping to get my hands on a shop manual for my '79 R65 by the weekend, which basically means that I need to be able to download it from somewhere.
The only one online I can find is for R45.
Are the specs/service procedures much the same for these models except for capacity and carby size?
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can download a manual for my R65?
btw I want to purchase and do it legally.  ;)
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: nhmaf on April 12, 2011, 06:46:48 PM
Hmm, I'm not sure about where to find a downloadable shop manual, but there are many similarities between the R45 and R65 of the same vintage.  Carbs, cylinders/pistons are the primary areas of difference - most of the other bits are the same or nearly the same AFAIK.
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on April 12, 2011, 09:59:16 PM
Did you check this PDF file in the FAQ section, here?

http://www.bmwr65.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1271881232

That should give you everything you need to get it running.
It is for a '81-'84, so there are differences like the clutch lever, but you should be able to work it out, and ask us questions here.
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Tony_T on April 12, 2011, 10:35:51 PM
Thanks Rob,
But that's for an Owner's Manual, not a shop manual.
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on April 12, 2011, 10:44:50 PM
The BMW shop manual is not worth much; it assumes you have been factory trained and have factory tools at hand.

Haynes and Clymer are not much better, as they scarcely acknowledge the existence of Type 248 bikes, and what information there is (torque figures) can sometimes be wrong.

The owner's manual on the other hand, is surprisingly effective.
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: suecanada on April 12, 2011, 11:24:31 PM
Owners Manual is absolutely the best out there. Recent bike manuals are the pits! And I don't mean racing pits! Not nearly the wide topics covered in new model bike manuals. I don't find my service manual all that user friendly either for the R65LS.
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Barry on April 13, 2011, 02:23:05 AM
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The only one online I can find is for R45.
Are the specs/service procedures much the same for these models except for capacity and carby size?

Yes which makes the fact that they do separate manuals surprising.

As mentioned the owners manual is very good and lists all of the differences.

Bore and piston size
valve sizes
carb size
Final drive ratio
Speedo ratio
Side panel decals

and I think that's it,  everything else is identical




Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Tony_T on April 13, 2011, 03:17:27 AM
Thanks Barry!
I'm mainly getting into electrical stuff and wheel bearings first, so that R45 manual will get me by.  :)
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Barry on April 13, 2011, 08:28:43 AM
Tony

One thing that didn't get mentioned yet is that there are quite a few differences between 78 - 80 and 81 - 85 versions of our bikes.

Does your online manual cover the earlier versions like yours and mine and if so any chance of a link?
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Tony_T on April 13, 2011, 04:46:07 PM
I was aware that there's differences between those year models through what I've read on this site.
Unfortunately, the manual I thought was online, is actually only available on CD. It does cover the early versions as well, though.
Here's the link to the site. http://www.repairbooks.co.uk/bmw/R45/index.htm
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Barry on April 13, 2011, 05:27:18 PM
Thanks Tony, I hadn't seen that one before.  

Most people get by with a Haynes or a Clymers and even if they are said to be less than perfect there's so much other info on the net for Airheads in general that it's rare to be stuck on any individual task.
Title: Re: R45 vs R65
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on April 13, 2011, 07:42:24 PM
That is an interesting link.  Too bad they don't show one or two pages for example, so you know what you are getting.  If it is the factory manual, I consider it worthless.  I have a copy of one in a box somewhere that never sees the light of day.

They do provide an email address where you can request manuals that are not listed.