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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Crossrodes on December 23, 2010, 02:07:35 PM

Title: Ground Wire
Post by: Crossrodes on December 23, 2010, 02:07:35 PM
I just noticed in a picture I took before I took my '79 apart that I had a ground wire attached to one of the studs on the rear coil.  Can anyone tell me what the other end of this ground with is attached to?
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Bob_Roller on December 23, 2010, 02:13:11 PM
I don't have a bike with two coils, but from what I've seen in comments, the main grounding or earthing point for the electrical system is somewhere on the forward coil mount .

My best guess that the wire from your coil ends up somewhere at that point .

Is it a solid brown wire, or some other color ?

There should be a black wire on one of the coil terminals, it is the wire to the tachometer .
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on December 23, 2010, 02:20:20 PM
Here is a wiring diagram for a '79:

http://www.pbase.com/tomfarr/image/121670650
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Lucky_Lou on December 23, 2010, 02:54:34 PM
Mines a 79 twin coil i will check it out for you next week as the bike is tucked up in the workshop, but as i recall the brown is always earth.
When i did the rebuild i had a problem with wiring to the coils and both the Clymer and Haynes manuals diagrams didnt match to add to the confusion.
Lou
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Crossrodes on December 23, 2010, 04:50:26 PM
Here's the picture of the wire I'm talking about.  You can see it's a black wire and its grounded behind the stud holding the coil.   Looking at the bike now the only wire I can see that would fit goes from the battery negative post to a ground point on the transmission.

Rob thanks for the wiring diagram but those diagrams do not show the actual physical ground point connections.
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Lucky_Lou on December 23, 2010, 05:44:32 PM
That looks like the main earth wire for the battery and should be connected from the -ve terminal to the bolt securing the speedo cable on the gearbox.I will put a picture up as soon as i can but maybe someone else can confirm this.
Lou
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Crossrodes on December 23, 2010, 06:10:48 PM
I thought it might be that Lou.  I connected it to the gearbox when I rebuilt the bike.  So somehow I did something right when I did the rebuild.
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on December 24, 2010, 12:57:56 AM
Yes - that is the main ground going to the battery.
The idea behind moving it is twofold:
1) to avoid stripping the aluminum threads in the transmission vent bolt
2) to get a more direct path for ground to the starter, but this location doesn't really accomplish that.

Thanks for the picture.  I never would have guessed you meant the main ground!
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on December 24, 2010, 01:05:48 AM
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That looks like the main earth wire for the battery and should be connected from the -ve terminal to the bolt securing the speedo cable on the gearbox.I will put a picture up as soon as i can but maybe someone else can confirm this.
Lou
Yes - check and see if you have this wire, here:

(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbase.com%2Ftomfarr%2Fimage%2F129939616%2Fmedium.jpg&hash=357c069b938a91f76fb087ebfbadc71c57c8e451)
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Lucky_Lou on December 24, 2010, 05:51:16 AM
Nice photo Rob but wheres the speedo cable ???
Lou
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Bob_Roller on December 24, 2010, 07:00:57 AM
He's got a Vapor instrument cluster .
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Crossrodes on December 24, 2010, 10:19:05 AM
Rob, thanks for the pic...yes that is where it is now connected.
Title: Re: Ground Wire
Post by: Rob Valdez 79 R65 on December 24, 2010, 03:36:28 PM
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Nice photo Rob but wheres the speedo cable ???
Lou
I use my GPSr for a speedometer.