The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2

Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Patrick_Krivacka on July 14, 2010, 02:20:37 PM

Title: are you ready.....
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on July 14, 2010, 02:20:37 PM
to rumble!! Oil thread! What do y'all use?
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: montmil on July 14, 2010, 02:24:29 PM
Castrol 20w50. Me and Bengt Phorqs both. Nuttin' but.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: bjamesw on July 14, 2010, 02:33:57 PM
Here's a thread i got in on as Svejkovat.  
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13438939&posted=1#post13438939
 Interesting.   I thought I pretty much kept up with this stuff.   I was not familiar with this "controversy".

I've been a Rotella T 10/40 devotee forever.  I'm a little put off by their reluctance to come right out and address this issue.   My last change was Valvoline 4 stroke Motorcycle 20/50.    I'll probably stay with Valvoline VR1 "racing" oil in the future.  Seems to be a good compromise on zinc/phos content and cost.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Barry on July 14, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
Currently using Shell X100 super 15w40 SG rated
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on July 14, 2010, 03:12:43 PM
I'm also a rotella t user in the past. Castrol is in the bike now. Anyone else?
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Lucky_Lou on July 14, 2010, 03:15:26 PM
Im a 15w40 Castrol Man......
Read a thread somewhere that said stay away from synthetics.
Lou
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Semper Gumby on July 15, 2010, 08:37:39 AM
Spectro Golden 20W50 synth blend.  But it is getting really hard to find and really expensive.  I will probably go to the Valvoline VR1 20W50 laced with Lucas oil Stabilizer and change it more often when the time comes.

(slips into nomex pants)   8-)
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Crossrodes on July 15, 2010, 10:19:06 AM
Castrol 20/50.  I change it every 5 km (whenever I tear the engine down  :) )
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Bob_Roller on July 15, 2010, 10:23:57 AM
I use BMW branded 20w50 oil in the '81, for the time being, Castrol 20w50 motorcycle oil in the '82 and '84 LS's .
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Ed Miller on July 15, 2010, 11:23:04 AM
This thread will get moved, I bet.

I use AMSOIL 20W-50 air-cooled motorcycle (V-Twin) oil, and change it according to the book every 5,000 miles.  I use it in my Triumph, too, which gets changed every 2,000 miles since I added an oil filter.



Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Bengt_Phorqs on July 15, 2010, 01:18:29 PM
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Castrol 20w50. Me and Bengt Phorqs both. Nuttin' but.  
This was true at one time, however the Castrol 20W50 is not SG rated.  I've gone over to the BMW 20W50 SG rated oil in the R90/6, Mobil 1 20W50 in everything else.  But truthfully, I think the Castrol would probably be just fine.  I've used it in my Ford F150 with 316k and no issues.  Frequent changes is really the key IMHO.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Lucio_Lopez on July 16, 2010, 07:01:37 PM
Castrol 20/50. just fine.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: MrRiden on July 18, 2010, 09:41:57 AM
Castrol 20w50 as well here in the desert.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Patrick_Krivacka on July 18, 2010, 09:44:03 AM
lot's of love for castrol.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: montmil on July 18, 2010, 11:44:09 AM
Just tossing this out to muddy up the waters...

Snowbum is now touting the virtues of Valvoline Motorcycle 20W50.  [smiley=undecided.gif]
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Bengt_Phorqs on July 18, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
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lot's of love for castrol.  
Yep, it's been a tried and true BP product for years and years, and I've bought my share of it.  Won't put it in any of my airheads though because of the low zinc content.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Yikes on July 18, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
Castrol does make a 4 stroke motorcycle oil that is SG rated.  I just ran across it at the auto parts store and will be giving it a try on the next oil change.
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: Bob_Roller on July 18, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Just did a little searching for Spectro Oil products, found a gear lube, and 7.5wt fork oil for BMW's

http://www.spectro-oils.com/pdfs/SpectroCatalog.pdf
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: bjamesw on July 18, 2010, 02:05:22 PM
 "Snowbum is now touting the virtues of Valvoline Motorcycle 20W50".

Is that from this page?
http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/oilcansimple.htm

He says....

Ashland Oil Company makes Valvoline brand products.  Valvoline 4-stroke motorcycle oil in 10W40 (COLD climates) or 20W50 for moderate climates, is still a good oil for Airheads.   The zinc content of these two oils is 0.112%, phosphorus is 0.103%, calcium is 0.182%, and sodium is 0.052%.

For Shell Rotella-T, in 15W40, the calcium is 0.27%; zinc is 0.135%, and phosphorus is 0.120%.


I figured he put the Valvoline info out there kind of as a random comparison, citing one, among a handful, of oils that compare to Rotella.  But the fact that he gives a number for the phos content of Rotella makes me wonder if the info is a little out of date there.  Shell still (apparantly) will not release that info for its latest formulations of Rotella.

God, why does this stuff invite such agonizing? (i'm as guilty as anyone)

Ironically, I've sometimes romanticised this ol' airhead boxer as something I'd set out on when the Mayan's doomsday forecast comes to call in 2012... out into the thunderdome-like post-apocalypse,  running on diesel, wesson, kerosene, lamp oil,  putrified butter,  grain alcohol,  whatever the hell opportuned itself...  fending away,  sawed off 12ga on one arm,  those abandoned roadside by their lesser makes whose high strung tightly intolerant powerplants choked on the same.  Ha Ha.... He He!!!!!!

Meanwhile, I'll just use the best I can afford.      
Title: Re: are you ready.....
Post by: montmil on July 18, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
 ;D bjamesw, Ya know ol' Mel Gibson isn't getting any good press these days.

Funny you should mention the Mayan calendar and 2012. Wife and I were on the Yucatan Peninsula last June exploring the remains of a Mayan city whose name I can't pronounce, much less spell.

We purchased a computer-generated personalized Mayan calendar at the small museum. Think the ancient ones may be on to something? [smiley=uhoh2.gif]