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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Red_Hen on June 28, 2010, 12:01:44 PM

Title: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Red_Hen on June 28, 2010, 12:01:44 PM
Ordered my parts last Sunday and today when I arrived at work the parts are here in my mailbox!  It took only 5 working days to get my stuff - ground cable for back of tranny to battery, atmospheric bolt (has a hole in it), new throttle grip, top & cam, fork filler covers and a nifty Trelock cable lock to fit in the frame tube.

Will put these items on and dropping bike off on Thursday to BMW mechanic to have him check my work and get this beast awake and running!

I think I may have fried my headlight relay when I was hooking the small positive cable that I thought was negative to the wrong post on the battery.  We've used a Volt meter to check everything and it seems the only reason the low beam doesn't work is due to the relay.  Theere is continuity from all points to the wire where the relay plugs in.

We're getting there - mostly due to the great help from this forum.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Bob_Roller on June 28, 2010, 12:35:21 PM
I've only placed one order with Motobins, that was last September, seven days from placing the order, it arrived here in Phoenix .

That's quicker than it takes the local BMW dealer to get parts for the R65 .

It's 8500 km, or 5300 miles traveling distance for the shipment to here in Phoenix .

Even taking into account the shipping cost, and the foreign currency exchange fee that my credit card issuer charges, prices can't be matched !!!!
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Crossrodes on June 28, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
Ken, Bob, what delivery service did they use?  I'm hoping that they use the mail service as I asked them for the items I just ordered.  Couriers charge an arm and a leg up here to clear imported goods through customs.
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: montmil on June 28, 2010, 02:21:22 PM
Everything I've ever received from Motobins has come via Royal Air Mail. Very reasonable cost, too.

Monte
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Red_Hen on June 28, 2010, 02:22:06 PM
I believe it's the British equivilent of the USPS.  Works pretty well.
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Red_Hen on June 28, 2010, 02:23:20 PM
I've found their prices to be @ 25% less than the local BMW dealer and right now the exchange rate is pretty good for the US Dollar.

Btw, I love their drop down currency converter - ever notice how many currencies there are in the world?
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: montmil on June 28, 2010, 02:33:10 PM
Ken,  Here's some headlight relay info from the ABC site. Don't recall your model year. Would be helpful to always include this info or simply add it to your personal info displayed with each post you make. Just a suggestion...   Monte

Info from the ABC site. http://www.airheads.org/content/view/159/98/

BMW Headlight Relays

61 32 1 358 193          9/74 to '77 "Main" (30, 85, 86, 87, 87b)

61 32 1 243 049          '78 to '84 "Day-Light/Time" (30, 85, 86, 87, 87b w/ diode 86-87b, park lights lit while starting)

61 32 1 244 411          '85 on (30, 85, 86, 87, 87b w/diode 85-coil & 86-87b, park lights lit while starting)

61 31 1 373 585          some R65 "Day-Light" (30, 85, 86, 87 with resistor 85-86)

Possible substitutions:

BMW: 61 32 1 358 193
Type: 12V, 2 x 30A; mini-relay
Notes: 9/74 to '77 "Main" Headlight Relay; Hazard Warning Relay '76 to '84 (30, 85, 86, 87, 87b)
Stribel: SR 9725 "12V, 2 x 30A"
Bosch: 0 332 015 006*, 0 332 015 012* (?mounting tab, rating?)


BMW: 61 32 1 243 049
Type: 12V, 2 x 30A; mini-relay
Notes: '78 to '84 "Day-Light/Time" Headlight Relay (30, 85, 86, 87, 87b w/ diode 86-87b, park lights lit while starting)


BMW: 61 32 1 244 411
Type: 12V, 2 x 30A; mini-relay
Notes: '85 on (30, 85, 86, 87, 87b w/ diode 85-coil & 86-87b, park lights lit while starting)
Stribel: 89 9675?
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Red_Hen on June 28, 2010, 11:02:43 PM
Monte- I read that - thanks - I still don't get how to test the relays but no worries 'cause bike is going in to the BMW mechanic this week.
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: trolle on June 29, 2010, 12:48:13 AM
I've been using Motobins for a couple of years now: They are fast and very easy to deal with and the Danish suppliers cannot match the prices.

Last year they sent me a stainless muffler which had a small dent. It was replaced with no fuss at all.

greetings from a warm and sunny north
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Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Barry on June 29, 2010, 06:33:20 AM
Hey Guys - don't make too much noise about Motobins prices being 25% less than your US dealers or they might read it on the forum and put them up.  ;D

Here in the UK we have 3 major internet suppliers all of which have much the same overall prices: - Motobins, Motorworks and James Sherlock. Motorworks and James Sherlock don't export to US/Canada though. We do have BMW dealers but they are chrome and glass palaces. I may be wrong but I doubt they have the slightest interest in airheads. Has anyone in the UK bought airhead spares from a BMW dealer ?
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Crossrodes on June 29, 2010, 10:01:20 AM
I just received my shipping cost from them....23 pounds (for 69 pounds worth of engine gasket set and a timing chain kit).  That's seems like a lot.  I'll have to see how the bottom line comes out compared to a dealer when I get down there.
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Bob_Roller on June 29, 2010, 10:21:07 AM
Mike, that does sound a bit on the high side for shipping costs .

I just checked my receipt from Motobins, I paid 12 GBP shipping costs for my order, it was about the same as yours, 1 timing chain kit, 2 Brembo caliper rebuild kits and a master cylinder rebuild kit .

I wonder if you are subject to the VAT that's charged in the European Union .
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Crossrodes on June 29, 2010, 11:06:18 AM
Bob, the charge is 23 pounds (plus vat on the 23 pounds).  There is no VAT on the parts themselves.  Thanks for the feedback.  I'll check with them that this is correct.
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Bob_Roller on June 29, 2010, 11:12:09 AM
We're not subject to the VAT here in the US, at least when I placed my order last September we weren't .
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Crossrodes on June 29, 2010, 11:49:47 AM
Bob, we're not subject to the VAT here in Canada also but I believe it will apply to a service provided in the UK such as postal service.  Are you sure you didn't pay VAT for your mailing charges?

I just checked with sales at Motobins and they assure me that the mailing charge is correct.
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Bob_Roller on June 29, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
I jsut checked my receipt from Motobins, under VAT charged, 0.00 was entered .

Any other US members  that have done business with Motobins, any VAT charge on your receipt ???
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Crossrodes on June 29, 2010, 12:21:30 PM
It looks like you are right Bob.  I just checked back on an email I had sent Motobins a year ago about shipping to Canada.  They told me then that VAT would not apply.  So I have emailed them back.

Mike

(I sometimes wonder why all the shit happens to me)
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: montmil on June 29, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
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I jsut checked my receipt from Motobins, under VAT charged, 0.00 was entered .

Any other US members  that have done business with Motobins, any VAT charge on your receipt ???

None. The Value Added Tax (VAT) is what our sales tax is. Usually not charged on "out of state" orders. I believe The Colonies are considered out of state.

When you finalize your M'bins order, the last page has all prices, deletes the VAT but shows no shipping costs. Motobins adds that to your tab after they have weighted and packaged the order. It is a bargain to me that my bits can fly the Atlantic so economically.

I've not paid that much for my Motobins timing chain kit and an odd assortment of small stuff. Looked at my records and no VAT, no where, no how.

Monte
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: montmil on June 29, 2010, 02:15:45 PM
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It looks like you are right Bob.  I just checked back on an email I had sent Motobins a year ago about shipping to Canada.  They told me then that VAT would not apply.  So I have emailed them back.

Mike

(I sometimes wonder why all the shit happens to me)

Mike, Aren't you kinda part of the British Empire, being in Canada and all? Queen wants her due ::)

Monte
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Crossrodes on June 29, 2010, 02:46:33 PM
We're definitely part of the British Commonwealth but not part of the British Empire (That disappeaed sometime before I was born...but then I'm just a young-un).  ;)
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Crossrodes on June 30, 2010, 09:33:26 AM
Well I just heard back from Motobins.  They will not be charging me VAT.  
Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: Ed Miller on June 30, 2010, 11:09:46 AM
I never paid VAT, and I've ordered from them twice.  

Title: Re: Motobins is FAST
Post by: montmil on June 30, 2010, 12:58:35 PM
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Well I just heard back from Motobins.  They will not be charging me VAT.  

Very good! It costs nothing to ask but the results can be muy bueno.

Monte