The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: VaSteve on December 04, 2006, 11:38:31 AM
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So my bike is Bronco brown. It's pretty chipped up around the fuel filler and on the front fender. The seat tailpiece is scratched up from the non-moving Krauser rack and I have newer one coming from eBay.
Since it's a lot eaiser to repaint a bike in a new color compared to a car, I will probably change the color. What color bike are you riding? Got a photo? What color would you do it over in? I may not go with an official BMW color, but am looking from some ideas that go with the age and character of the bike.
Suggest something! :)
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Easy...henna red with white wheels aka Ducati Monster as well. Stunning.
Close second is a Harley bright sunshine blue with white wheels.
White wheels really set off bold colors.
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Cool, never thought of doing anything with the wheels. Mine is a regular R65... not sure how that would look.
I have been considering old Porsche colors from the late 70's as well, since they will go well on German machinery. I'll find some links and post them. I'm thinking a non-metallic color to make painting easier.
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Porsche red is very nice and bright.....must be close to henna red. Henna red doesn't seem to fade like some reds as it has an orange tint. An artist told me this. Can't find a pic of the blue R65 with white wheels as the site called suicidemission.com seems to be gone! :'( It was a really pure, bright blue.
Rob V. and I used to lust after some of those bikes on that site. I wonder where it got to???? :-?
Classic black is always a good choice with white pinstripes.
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My vote is for the classic black with white/red pinstripping.
(I'm not partial at all... ;) )
The black is really a beautiful color especially with the offsetting pinstrips. Although I also like yellow. I've never seen an R65 in yellow, but think that would be interesting! It looks great on my Laverda... (with Black wheels)
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi129.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp210%2Fcabcgec%2FMotorcycles%2F95594_03.jpg&hash=cca2d4b650b9a625f2aa1875151f55b2bad35c72)
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Black is cool, very traditional...
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I really like the Yellow and Black.
Here is the LS that was on e-bay recently (that I missed bidding on).
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I'm not a real big fan of bright yellows but for some reason that color just looks good on that bike.
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It may be the smart use of black under the passenger grab handles that also matches the black nacelle over the instruments. Only silver on the engine is the third shade. It looks so "together" Here the black wheels are perfect. I am sure Aïda will love that yellow LS!!
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I've always been rather fond of old fashioned "Beemer Blue" myself.
Of course, Justin calls it "Dupont # 379 Super Neon Electric Bleu" or some such thing.....
And considering what the seller was asking for the yellow LS, it BETTER look good!
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There are really only two choices:
flat black (now THAT would be stealth, John in SC...)
or of course, the BEST color that BMW ever put on an R65, Bronco Brown! ;D
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I was waiting for Rob V. to arrive here and extol Bronco Brown ::) Yup, he is a fan and I like the way he is sticking to his love for that color..well done Rob!
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Steve, it's actually DuPont Hot Hues #741901 - Blue Mood... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] ::) [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] :o[smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
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I like that yellow MsBuck posted...
Here's some of the colors I was thinking of:
1980 Porsche Cashmere (sort of a tan):
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Talbot Yellow:
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.pelicanparts.com%2Fuploads9%2FTALBTREAR1162778511.jpg&hash=332e4f19f95d34a0f38b48d53c02c3a00dd31e3c)
Peru Red (darker than the usual Porsche guards red, I guess sort of like Henna Red?):
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.pelicanparts.com%2Fuploads6%2FP30900181135657806.jpg&hash=b3b1cf56993a2f10a3e49613ba82a49f747e006d)
Kiln Red (but it might be a metallic):
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I have also considered white or silver.
Unfortunately, I can't find many photos of R65s in other colors than what's already posted. How come there's so many Bronco survivors? :)
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Oooh, Canyon Red. This is cool:
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbmbikes.co.uk%2Fphotos%2Fschemephotos%2FR65%2520Canyon%2520Red.jpg&hash=d966ab1489bb7eab2c0033f9b674ba7950a30716)
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That is a really nice red, but I like your idea of a pearly white better.
There was a white R65 on Ebay not long ago, and while not a stock color, it sure did look good!
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Yes, Yes, Yes! I love the yellow LS! Just what I was thinking.
I do also remember a sort of teal color on the R65s that I thought was very cool looking. I know we sold one back when the dealership was Scooterville that was the teal color. Don't see many of them, though.
I also like the pearl whites, but I think that could be a difficult paint to manage?
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Add another vote for Henna Red, or bright yellow as a close second choice.
I was once looking at a bike in Florida, an R75/5 that the owner had painted
a rather dark, glossy green - it wasn't the traditional very dark british racing green
that one often sees on Jaguars, but a few shades lighter/brighter. It looked very nice
on a BMW for some reason. I think that there may have been some older Porsche 911s
that came in a similar color as well.
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I really like the Yellow and Black.
Here is the LS that was on e-bay recently (that I missed bidding on).
Colour aside which is distinctive, I really like the wire wheels on this bike, don't think I have seen an R65 with relaced wire wheels and twin disks.
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Don't let a committee pick out your color or have some sort of "BMW would never had used THAT color" mindset be your guide. Pick out a color you like and go for it! Hey, unless you are doing a 100%, 100 point resto. what difference does it make? Just remember, you're gonna have to live with it so you might as well like it!
My .02 worth...
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Don't let a committee pick out your color or have some sort of "BMW would never had used THAT color" mindset be your guide. Pick out a color you like and go for it! Hey, unless you are doing a 100%, 100 point resto. what difference does it make? Just remember, you're gonna have to live with it so you might as well like it!
My .02 worth...
I'm not really looking for a committee decision, I'm looking for ideas or photos I guess. Decision will be all mine. :)
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i had all my stuff powdercoated in something called silver vain. semper gumby may have a pic of it but it was taken at night and ill try to get a better one for you. its totally different but i like it.
john
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Purple, maybe?? :o
PS: Va Steve, are you familiar with this site? http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/index.htm
If not, get in there for TONS of pics, color charts, etc, may get some entirely new ideas.
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Here is another color that catches my eye and the fairing too. Its a Hannigan. OOOOOOOOOO! :o
The color compliments the silvers of the engine-frame and the black of the tires-seat-bags.
I think I want a Hannigan to replace my Luftmeister.
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Steve
Yeah, I started with that site, I didn't find as many photos as I would have liked. I did find a nice photo of black R65 with no pinstrip. Looked so clean and more "modern" if you will.
Got your photos as well, thanks
Steve
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I reckon I'll try to post the same photo of my avatar only larger, so you can look at another color. Hope this works. This may be the teal color that was mentioned earlier
http://www.geocities.com/eljefespeaks/8_27_06b.jpg
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Yeah, that's the teal I think someone referred to earlier, and I see your bike is an '81.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think teal was an '81 model year exclusive.
Nice color!
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Nice! i think the seat cowl I have coming is that color.
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thanks for the compliments guys. My knowledge of the history of these bikes is minimal, so I can't say for sure whether this color was only offered in 1981. I can say that I can't find many photos of R65's with this color on the internet. I like the color quite a bit, but I'm partial to blues and greens - so I guess this is kind of a compromise between my two preferences. The paint is in fairly good condition except for the front fender, where the previous owner had jerry-rigged some kind of home-made cruising pegs that I guess rubbed on the front fender somehow. They were off the bike when I bought it, but came along with the bike. I took one look at them and threw 'em in the trash when I got home.
One kind of cool thing is that the BMW symbols on the gas tank have faded over time to a gold color, which just so happens to match the pinstripes on the tank and the "R65" on the side covers pretty well. A friend of mine has some spare emblems he was going to give me to replace the old ones, but I wanted to leave the old ones on.
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Yeah, very nice indeed, and not something you're gonna see every day either.
Steve, I know this isn't up for a vote and you're gonna do what you're gonna do, but I'd seriously consider this teal, if you plan to stay with a factory BMW color, that is.
PS: Va Steve, if you have a seat cowl coming in teal and it's from an '81 or later, keep in mind that it's gonna fit differently from the '79-'80 cowls, if at all. The seats and cowls both changed beginning with the '81 models.
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VA Steve,
If it turns out the cowl is something you DO NOT need, let me know. I am collecting pieces to put a later model seat on my '79.
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The BMW name for the 'teal' was azure blue (commonly refered to as turquoise), paint code 158. Only available in the US for the '81 model year. It also happens to be the color of my '81 R65, a rather unique color. I've only seen one other R65 this color, and that was in Sandy Eggo in October '87.
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PS: Va Steve, if you have a seat cowl coming in teal and it's from an '81 or later, keep in mind that it's gonna fit differently from the '79-'80 cowls, if at all. The seats and cowls both changed beginning with the '81 models.
Uhh, didn't realize that. If it doesn't fit, it looks like Bob needs one.
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Just let me know, Steve. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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A complete seat will fit just fine but you'll need to get the later model storage compartment that fits under the cowl or it'll probably look kinda strange/incomplete... But, just the cowl won't bolt up to an 79-80 seat as the "angle" on the back of the seat is much steeper on the older seat pans.
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I doubt the later storage box would fit under the rear portion of the early seat, when closed, also.
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Rob you have a PM ;)
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I'm kinda partial to reds. I painted my RT in DuPont Hot Hues Crimson Splash a couple years ago:
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwebpages.charter.net%2Fjbowser%2Fpics%2F95%2520R100RT%2F95%2520R100RT%2520left.jpg&hash=f10b0cafe1a3276c03e42e0aee02ffaec3710bfe)
It's kinda dark but when the sun gets on it the metallic really comes to life! ;D
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Basic Black can look really cool
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Basic black can be very cool!
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another view of basic black with slash 2 pinstripes
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I have got to get one of those cars. They are so cute!
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Hi ,
I still love pure black with the small stripes.
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Black and Red are currently leading the race. :)
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Here's my blue '84...
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another angle
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I'm really liking these without the pin stripes:
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Yeah, I'm not a big pinstripe fan myself, and if I ever paint my bike it'll definitely be in a high-gloss black.
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There are some very cool looking bikes here.....going to be hard to choose..........that new color.
I think the use of pinstripes sort of depends on the look your going for. If you want a more modern look then go for no stripe or the thin stripe. I started to get a old slash 2 bike but decided I needed electric start, a little more horse power and disk brakes of a more modern bike. However, being old I like that old look so used the old slash 2 double pin strip on my R65. I also carried that pinstripe over to the seat and sidecar seat. If you go with pin stripes you might consider carrying it over to the seat as well. You can get your seat recovered without spending a small fortune. Mine was done for $350.00 but that included the sidecar seat as well. I thought that red bike with the big white pinstripe was really cool. Here is a closer look at the pinstripe on bike and seats.
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I really like the Yellow and Black.
Here is the LS that was on e-bay recently (that I missed bidding on).
Do you know anything about the wheels? I really like them.
Thanks
-James
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sloth,
This is the link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-R-Series-1982-BMW-R65-LS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ49977QQihZ008QQitemZ180056800314QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
And here is the contact information from the auction description.
Joshua Buck
The Parts Haus
( 562) 254-0452 PST Mon-Fri (anytime)
Apparently the bike is still available? The auction ended with no reserve met.
More nice pictures on the auction page.
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If only I had the money and the garage space! I LOVE that bike!
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Look at this neat site:
http://www.jgstechnical.com/html/randd/colorize/index.html
You may have to go to products and find their flash demo for colorization demo. Can click on colours choices and add them to frame, exhaust, etc. etc. of the bike.
Neat
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It's the Flash Colorization demo 1 that uses a motorcycle. If you have troubles finding this just play with the site using only the jgstechnical.com part in the URL. Fun.....
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That's kinda cool! :D
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Another nice one...
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I can't find a picture, but I love the slate/gun metal grey colour on some beemers.
Toss up between that and black.
Maybe I'm biased becasue my first car was a gun metal gray/blue.
A scheme using that, black, silver and teh right amount of chrome looks awesome....
This colour would be high on my list...
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Black is cool, very traditional...
Hi Justin
I just registered on "The Unofficial and Purposely Disorganized R65 Forum" and sent off the obligatory first post.
Have been going through the various topics and came across this fantastic pictureof you r80. From reading the posts you appear to be quite an authority on the R65, so I thought I would ask you whether I could fit an R80 tank on to the R65. Are they standard fitting's ? I just love that scalloped look of the r/80 tank
Ivan
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Ivan,
Thanks for the "flowers" but I am far from an authority, especially when it come to interchanging things between the R80 and R65. Probably a better person to ask would be Rev. Eddie who has quite a BMW used parts business and seems to be pretty much in tune with what will work on what. I think I do remember reading somewhere that the dual spigot R80ST(?) tank will fit except the gap between seat and tank will be greater. Some of the R80 (either ST or GS) tanks were slightly scalloped and some like them much better, especially if you can find the 2 spigot model.
I think maybe the bike you are referring to is my black '81 R100 (former RT in a previous life) and I have also wondered about adapting one of these to an R65. The rear mounting arrangement would have to be changed as the two tanks mount/attach totally different at the rear of the tank. I have been looking for a killer deal on a "spare" R100 tank and if I ever find one I'll do some trial fitting and "head scratching" to see if it would be feasible. You will notice that my R100 is an '81 dual shock and the rear cowl and seat are from a later "monoshock" bike so you can make pretty much anything fit anything, if you're determined enough... ;)
Welcome aboard and show us some pics of what you are cooking up!
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Hi Justin
Thanks for that. I am yet to source a BMW tech here on the gold coast. The Official dealers refuse to touch such an old model they say and will be getting back to me with some info on a BMW tech. So lets see. If I have to make modifications, I will. Maybe then have to source a seat that would fit the gap. Anyway, I am looking forward to bringing the bike up to scratch. Its come with Stainless pipes, but the balancer tube is kind of grotty. Anyway, shall take a series of pics to show the bike Pre-resotoration and then post-restoration. Its gonna be awhile, but I hope to get there.
They have a few
"crash bikes" auctions here regularly and I plan to start attending them. You never know.
'tisall for now
Ivan
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Good luck, everybody here is always glad to help.
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Its come with Stainless pipes, but the balancer tube is kind of grotty.
Ivan
Do you have Electrolux vacuum cleaners where you live? I understand the long chrome extensions work perfectly, once cut to length, etc.
A quote from my good virtual friend, Jean, from the Boxerworks Forum:
I gave-up LONG ago on the BMW OEM crossover pipe.
I got 2 clamps from the local Yamaha shop...a stainless clamp usually called "Aircraft Clamp", and an old Electrolux Vacuum extension pipe: Sawed it to the correct length plus a smidge, added a slot in each end, and have a never-ending supply of shiny chrome crossover pipes whose clamps won't snap off.
These pipes are just as thick as the BMW ones, and can be had from any vac. cleaner repair shop for less than $5. I got 5 of them for free when I installed a central vac (nice rep!) ..but after that, they were $3 each from a nearby shop. I'm still using the first one I made for the R100s over 10 years ago. The clamps are the most expensive item, but they are reusuable.
plus: (When the end with the latch gets buggered, they are useless. That's why you can sometimes get them free.)
and: Alittle more info on the clamps: they are officially called "T-bolt band clamps". A company called Clampco (http://www.clampco.com/) makes a bunch of them for trucks, busses and heavy equipment applications. There is a retail sales site on the web...I suspect they would cost less from a source like this than from a bike shop.
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On our 1980 I made the front crossover out of a piece of 1" electrical conduit, fit like a glove. I put a slit in each end with a cutoff tool so it would clamp down, sandblasted the entire exhaust and painted it semi-gloss black. This is the conduit crossover:
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When I had Britta repainted, I decided to go for a color that I was fairly sure I hadn't seen on another R65 before, so I chose a color called, "Metallic Emerald". (My favorite color is Hunter Green, so this was kind of close.)
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Some colours look good on Beemers, but that yellow LS is horrid, could you imagine seeing that first thing in the morning with a bike rallly hangover? I like the original red with the black lower tank, but if I was respraying the bimbo I'd probably go for a nice shiny black or Manchester City sky blue. Never seen a BMW painted in that sort of blue and think it would look pretty good, but I've got no taste or idea of colour co-ordination so probably should not be commenting on this.
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I've seen two pictures of yellow LSs, but I liked them both. On the other hand, it's nearly always dark when I head for work in the morning anyway, so I wouldn't be looking at it through the bleary eyes you mention!
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Just finished the paint on my '84. I'm really pleased with it. I'm still working on a new dash piece to cover the backs of the tach and speedo and hold the turn signal indicators. Other than that, she's done. Hope you like it.
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i like that alot. i almost went with a color like that myself, i let my wife and son decide on the pearl acid orange. prolly not thrangs choice ;D but it really has grown on me. i can say there arent alot of orange bmw out there.
i like the frame brace also. any chance of having you take some closer pixs so i could make some for mine?
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Here's a shot that shows them a little better, they bolt into lugs that are welded on the frame. I'm not sure, but this may be a San Jose BMW upgrade from their (old) catalog. They were installed when I got the bike, along with a host of other upgrades.
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those are a little different frame braces from others i have seen. thanks. i like the look how those are done. now i need some 1" solid rod to drill and tap for the mounts and some tubing for the crossmember.
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What is the purpose of the frame brace? Does the frame twist that much?
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they are mostly for looks unless you are one of those who loves to push your machine in corners and tries to use the machine to its limits. i like the view of life at 45 degrees dragging my knees. i dont know how much they flex because mine isnt finished yet but i have heard they do, i will try it with out and with. see if they make that much of a difference.
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Hi M-W,
Love the color. I talked to Rev. Eddie about this. He said that frame braces didn't do much but that bracing the swing arm helped the handling more on a "cow". The R65 swing arm before 1985 was shorter than most and therefore more ridged.
Bill