The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: nsparch on September 22, 2009, 08:40:40 PM
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Somewhat of a newbie on the boards but have been enjoying my first R65 ('79) problem free for about a year now.
I made the mistake of removing my choke lever by loosening the screw all the way out. When I put it back in the threads don't seem to catch anything in the engine block. Does anyone know if there's a 'nut' of some sort on the inside that may have dropped in? My choke lever assembly is hanging at the moment (but still operational).
Any sugeestions/knowledge/experience/remedy would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm not familiar with the 'clamshell' type airfilter housing, but my guess is that if you removed the 'airbox', you'll probably find the missing nut .
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I tend to agree with Bob. Rob V or some other folks with the 78-80 model year bikes should chime in soon.
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Yes, there is a nut on the inside.
You just need to remove the black air tube going into the left carburetor so you can remove the left side of the clam shell.
The screw right above the air tube is really long and it holds the two halves of the clam shell together.
You should have inspected your air cleaner by now, anyway, so this is a good thing.
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nsparch
Your not the first to have done that. Many of us learn't about that nut the same way.
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And just a tip for when you're trying to re-install the long bolt holding the two clam shells together, remove the right side air tube so you can guide the bolt back in with your fingers. Otherwise you'll be all day trying to stab it back into the female thread. The clamshell air box is a real PITA but it does work.
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And just a tip for when you're trying to re-install the long bolt holding the two clam shells together, remove the right side air tube so you can guide the bolt back in with your fingers. Otherwise you'll be all day trying to stab it back into the female thread. The clamshell air box is a real PITA but it does work.
Re: the long screw:
I have found that I can "hit the target" just by looking through the left-side opening for the air tube.
I love the clamshell airbox, myself. Make for a much nicer looking engine. Very subjective, I know.
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I have found that I can "hit the target" just by looking through the left-side opening for the air tube.
But Rob, you're probably a lot shorter than I am!
I love the clamshell airbox, myself.Make for a much nicer looking engine.Very subjective, I know.
It is a nice looking engine, I just think it's a little tedius (sic) when working on the air box. Trying to put the air hoses back on always tests my patience.
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Thanks. I'll incorporate all the abovementioned tips in my quest to find the escaped nut.
Funny, learning the 'hard way' just became a lot easier.
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Thanks. I'll incorporate all the abovementioned tips in my quest to find the escaped nut.
Funny, learning the 'hard way' just became a lot easier.
Top tip .......Fit a nylock nut that way it wont vibrate off, tighten the screw with the clamshell pulled back until your happy with the tension on the lever as i recall its a M6 nut with a 10mm spanner to hold it
And yes the clam shell is alot prettier than the lunch box plus the air filter is alot cheaper round rules!!!!!
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Another vote for the clamshell filter but I'd sure prefer to have the choke sorry enrichment lever on the handle bars. Its a 3 act farce to juggle clutch lever, throttle and the other lever at the same time.
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Another vote for the clamshell filter but I'd sure prefer to have the choke sorry enrichment lever on the handle bars. Its a 3 act farce to juggle clutch lever, throttle and the other lever at the same time.
Whats the problem its a hoot when you have a female pillion i give it full choke for 1/2 a mile then just tweak it back a bit at a time at appropriate moments usually off after a couple of miles
Very Lucky Lou ;) ;)
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...mm Those with the handlebar lever will be wondering what you mean Lou. I suppose it is always a fumble trying to locate that other lever.
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...mm Those with the handlebar lever will be wondering what you mean Lou. I suppose it is always a fumble trying to locate that other lever.
Sure is sometimes it takes forever to find [smiley=naughty.gif]
Lou
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I never had a problem locating the choke lever when mine was down there.
Thanks to some spare parts, I converted mine to a handlebar mounted lever many years ago.
With my rebuild, I am eliminating the choke cables all together.
Instead, I will use a couple of stiff wires with small loops in the ends. The straight ends fasten in the choke cable clamps, and the wires stick up through the old adjusters.
Pull them up to start, push down as it warms up. I've been told a properly tuned engine will only need one side "choked" to start!
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I never had a problem locating the choke lever when mine was down there.
Thanks to some spare parts, I converted mine to a handlebar mounted lever many years ago.
With my rebuild, I am eliminating the choke cables all together.
Instead, I will use a couple of stiff wires with small loops in the ends. The straight ends fasten in the choke cable clamps, and the wires stick up through the old adjusters.
Pull them up to start, push down as it warms up. I've been told a properly tuned engine will only need one side "choked" to start!
I can confirm the wire choke works well. One side and you're good to go. Buddy at work has this system on his R100S. He has small rubber grommets placed where the cable adjusters used to live and neat circular bends at the top ends. I'll snap a photo tomorrow and post it. Monte
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A fellow on Boxerworks sent me a couple of wires made to go....a year or so ago....now I'm not sure where they are! :(
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Here's the Denton ISD Team Motorrad- 1978 R100S and 1981 R65. There's also my 1983 R65 and a K-bike Flying Brick but the owner prefers riding his Vespa.
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi196.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa1%2Fmontmil%2FBMW%2520R65%2FDISDBMWs.jpg&hash=e35621b99127ae3f452ddbfd73391795893cf754)
The R100S has small wire choke pulls, possibly Boxerworks, as the current owner bought the bike from the previous restorer.
Closed (choke off) position...
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi196.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa1%2Fmontmil%2FBMW%2520R65%2FR100Schoke02.jpg&hash=ad3a3a72ace0d3839cc73446ec6a892e5832eeb2)
Choke On position (partially, to show wire anchor). Small rubber grommets in nicely formed wire circular shapes make for easy grabs. Note the bolt and nut on the enrichener lever... It must secure the end of the hard wire yet pivot on the lever.
(https://bmwr65.org/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi196.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa1%2Fmontmil%2FBMW%2520R65%2FR100Schoke03.jpg&hash=0cf8b5492dcc59a143f848af26818d1e9e9c2d25)