The New And Improved Unofficial R65 Forum V2
Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: ambrose78 on April 27, 2009, 10:21:26 PM
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My one just snapped.....Rather annoying but It is still drivable.
Before the search begins does anyone know if the Gear pedal is a specific R65 pedal or will any airhead pedal fit and work?
Cheers
P.
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Need a little clarification here, 'clutch pedal', you are either talking about a rear brake pedal, or a clutch lever.
I haven't done parts search, but I think both parts were used on all of the bikes of the era, I'm sure the GS bikes were different.
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My bad. Must have been in a daze.
I meant Gear lever/pedal.
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All of the R65s use a "divorced" pedal so any of the same type lever from any size Airhead should work. Or, you could build your own...
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well seems though the pedals here are rather expensive/hard to find so enquiring about making one.
As my pedal snapped I don't actually have an entire part to work from. I've attached a link to a drawing of what I'm thinking about making http://www.cadboost.com/BMW%20R65%20NEW%20GEAR%20LEVER.pdf. Most of the dimensions are correct (such as bolt hole, and where the linkage connects) but as for the length and offset I have just estimated???
Any thoughts?
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Is that a drawing of your creation?
I am not certain, but I thought that the upper hole for the shift linkage was a 6mm DIA hole - though maybe mine is just worn out. I am also not certain about the machining of the lever pivot - the shift levers have a bushing and soft washer in there and I am not sure if this part would accept the same bushing size? Later this week I can try to take some measurements
Shift levers aren't too hard to find if one haunts ebay, IBMWR and some other websites for decent used parts - though certainly being down under puts you a bit further away. I'll keep my eyes and ears open for ya.
Here is one from an 1982 R100 with the inferior "wire hanger" linkage, but you don't need that part, correct? They claim to ship worldwide:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-BMW-R100RT-1000-Gear-Shift-Lever-Shifter_W0QQitemZ250412417098QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item250412417098&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
But, I can also see where it would be a Very Cool Thing if I had the metal-working equipment to design and fabricate my own, like your suggestion.
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thanks nhmaf
Yep, I just drew it earlier today.
My shift linkage hole measured 5.4mm on the verniers but making it 6 I don't think would affect perfomance and might make it easier to assemble
There does seem to be a brass bush pressed into the shift lever, though with such a loose fit (on mine anyway theres about 0.2mm play between the bolt and the lever) I can't see that this is really necessary given the size of the bolt and the loads on the lever.
Thanks for the eagle eyes ebay. I'll buy it if the price is right factoring in $15 for postage. Only downside is waiting 15 days for postage.
Do these levers break very often? BMW wants $140 for a new one (plus waiting for a week) which seems like extortion for a small amount of die cast metal and a little rubber.
I'm thinking about making a stronger design, perhaps with folding toe peice or bolt on lever.
Then with the drawing, any machine shop can easily make on for people on the forum as needed.
p.
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I have made a couple, they are relatively labor intensive so unless your machinist doesn't mind working for minimum wage it'll probably cost you close to what a new one costs.
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motorworks.co.uk have the lever for sale new @ £34.10, which is $69 AUD or secondhand for £12.00 or $24.00 AUD. The linkage is not included in the price.
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I have linkages if needed. If you currently have a "wire" selector link and go to a shifter which used the adjustable solid selector rod I believe you will have excessive slop.
Just something to keep in mind...
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I've got a deal for you if you are interested. I have a 1984 LS that I am cafe'ing. I have the shift lever extra since I installed a set of Raask rearsets. I will send it to you (including shipping). This is the lever, footpeg w/mount and a new needle bearing that it rides on. No linkage as I scavenged the heim joints to build a linkage. Once you receive it you decide its worth and send me something of your own choosing that is distinctly Australian.
Marc
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I never realised there would be so many variations on shifting mechanisms for BMW R65's. Anyway to save confusion here are a couple of photo's of my broken lever and the linkage.
So if I'm understanding this correct - I have the non adjustable wire version. But there is also a version with a different adjustable linkage with threaded rod, and a couple of joints.
These two styles of parts aren't interchangable?
Or are they interchangable with slight modification?
Will the lever on the gearbox need to change as well if moving from a wire link to an adjustable rod?
Is one type better than the other?
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I've got a deal for you if you are interested. I have a 1984 LS that I am cafe'ing. I have the shift lever extra since I installed a set of Raask rearsets. I will send it to you (including shipping). This is the lever, footpeg w/mount and a new needle bearing that it rides on. No linkage as I scavenged the heim joints to build a linkage. Once you receive it you decide its worth and send me something of your own choosing that is distinctly Australian.
Marc
I'll take you up on the deal. Thanks PM Sent
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Aussie,
I make an adjustable heavy-duty selector rod and would be more than happy to sell you one for $30 plus shipping. When upgrading from the wire link the hole in the shift lever and the arm on the transmission end needs to be enlarged to 1/4" for my selector rod or 6 mm for the stock BMW adjustable rod.
Here is the one I make and sell:
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Parts are on the way.
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Kind of interesting, if you look at the picture of the broken shift lever, and the complete one, the break occurred at a casting seam.
Not a common failure, but another place to look at on occasion.
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well spotted with the casting seam. Makes it seem as though my one possible had a hairline crack there all along until one day just giving up.
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Thanks Marc.
Something uniquely Australian will be on its way shortly.
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Had a friend do something similar a few years ago, and stated, just send something uniquely Australian, and check the link,'cause this is what he got in return !
http://www.australiagift.com/sale/scrotum_1.htm
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;D
Not overly lucky for the 'roo though!
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I'm afraid if I carried one of those that my exhaust note may go up a couple of octaves. I could be mistaken for riding a sportbike. ;D
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Here's a shifter that I've made a few of, this was/is the prototype...
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nice pedal.
looks as though you could even run the linkage vertically to one of the bolt holes.
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I'm not sure what that would accomplish! :-? Those holes are to make the length adjustable