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Technical Discussion => BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 => Topic started by: Bill Conquest on February 10, 2021, 12:47:41 PM

Title: relay question
Post by: Bill Conquest on February 10, 2021, 12:47:41 PM
Hi all.. i’m trying to find a relay from my 1979 r65 that has a Bosch code:0332014406.. what would be the BMW number equivalent for this?
Thanks in advance
Bill
Title: Re: relay question
Post by: nhmaf on February 10, 2021, 09:42:33 PM
I think that might be a Guardian GR11 equivalent, or Hella #4RA003510081 ?

Which relay is it on your bike ?  Sounds like the main power relay?  That way, you can look it up on the MAX BMW fiche pages, starting here:
https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/DiagramsMain.aspx?vid=51897&rnd=09082020

Title: Re: relay question
Post by: mrclubike on February 10, 2021, 09:46:22 PM
Do you know what it controls?
If you can tell me what it controls I can tell you what it should be
Or can you post a picture of the little schematic on the side of it 
Title: Re: relay question
Post by: mrclubike on February 10, 2021, 09:50:25 PM
Remember BMW uses a different pin location than standard mini relays that you would find as NAPA
BMW uses the Type A everyone else uses Type B
And then there is the goofy starter relay with the built in diode  :wall: But I don't think the 79 R65 uses it any way
Title: Re: relay question
Post by: Bill Conquest on February 11, 2021, 06:02:27 PM
Hi and thanks for the replies.. i’d send a picture but I’m not that computer savvy🤡
The relay has a diagram on the side that shows 86 85 87 and 30 on it.. I took this relay to NAPA auto and they matched it up .. but.. it killed my battery because the relay was hot all the time.. the original one  (Bosch 0332014406)worked just fine ..I’m using it on my other bike which is identical to this one. It seems to be the one that enables the starter but the yellow starter relay that I have as a spare doesn’t go in there so I’m kind of lost😝
If anyone can make any sense out of this thanks a lot. I’ll try to figure out how to post a picture..
Bill Conquest
Ps.. it’s the third of 3 relays to the front of the row
Title: Re: relay question
Post by: mrclubike on February 11, 2021, 07:10:05 PM
Hi and thanks for the replies.. i’d send a picture but I’m not that computer savvy🤡
The relay has a diagram on the side that shows 86 85 87 and 30 on it.. I took this relay to NAPA auto and they matched it up .. but.. it killed my battery because the relay was hot all the time.. the original one  (Bosch 0332014406)worked just fine ..I’m using it on my other bike which is identical to this one. It seems to be the one that enables the starter but the yellow starter relay that I have as a spare doesn’t go in there so I’m kind of lost😝
If anyone can make any sense out of this thanks a lot. I’ll try to figure out how to post a picture..
Bill Conquest
Ps.. it’s the third of 3 relays to the front of the row

Flip the relay over and look at the numbers next to the pins
You will notice that the one from NAPA has the numbers in different places than the one you took out  (#30 and #86) That is why it killed your battery
Read my second post with the picture
You can use the one from NAPA but you will need to swap 2 of the terminals in the plug  #30 and #86
Or you can get one made for  BMW 
It should be this one
It looks like all three relays in the early R65s are the same
 


   
Title: Re: relay question
Post by: mrclubike on February 11, 2021, 07:32:07 PM
To post a picture
First save the picture to your computer 
Then when your in the posting window click on the area I circled in red
Then click the "Browse" box that  pops open
Find your picture and click OPEN
Title: Re: relay question
Post by: mrclubike on February 11, 2021, 07:42:01 PM
I think that might be a Guardian GR11 equivalent, or Hella #4RA003510081 ?

Which relay is it on your bike ?  Sounds like the main power relay?  That way, you can look it up on the MAX BMW fiche pages, starting here:
https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/DiagramsMain.aspx?vid=51897&rnd=09082020

Looks like this Hella Part number 4RA003510081 is the BMW style mini relay
You will notice that #30 and #86 are switched
https://www.wehrle-electronics.com/module/shop/4741_73524_shop_Mini-Relay-NO-12V-30A.aspx?LNG=en